A load of Bachem Ba 349 Natter pics from Pampa14

That seems fair enough – I had slightly misunderstood the problem so my remarks are irrelevant. And Mr Merry’s first sentence is the top and bottom of it anyway.

Most of us here stay here because the forum is fairly but softly moderated.

Thanks Moggy.

Thank you for that Mr Merry.

The thing is this has been discussed and a decision reached. Trotting out the same arguments each time he posts will not change that decision. Neither will telling us what other forums choose to do; why should it?

Moggy

Britmodeller doesn’t seem so kindly disposed to this poster

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234992055-the-most-secret-weapon-of-the-luftwaffe/

I think I like him more already!

If you don’t like his posts then don’t click on them, simples.
The issue I have is that moderating a forum is a thankless task, I know I have done it. When you get members telling the mods how to do the job (an unpaid job) I feel it undermines their position. I don’t want a slanging match, I’m just saying it as I see it.

I think he posts some interesting threads, pay per click or not.

That seems to be his sole saving grace.
Some here haven’t seen the stuff he peddles.
Although to us who have been students of aviation history for awhile, he isn’t saying anything new (or that isn’t available somewhere else).

I’m just tired of his phony questions that he never reads the answers to.

Usually, Key is pretty proactive on guys like this, after seeing that he’s been banned from other UK sites for doing the exact same thing (including phony names and locations..but then again so do most of the fanboys on the modern military forum) I’m surprised he’s still here.

Mr Merry sums it up.

Nobody is compelled to click on his link, and we now amend the title to give a clear idea of what it features.

There is no cost to any forum member from clicking through

Moggy
Moderator

I think he posts some interesting threads, pay per click or not.

As suggested to Moggy above – contravention of a C&C….?

🙁 Quoted from other forum “There is but the person keeps getting banned and opens new accounts. He rarely gets past 1 post before he is banned again.

For those who don’t know, he is paid for the number of hits on his blog. He tricks readers to open his link. “
Enough for the Mods ?

Good idea of BritModeller to remove his links – maybe the Mods can do that at the same time they edit the thread title? (Actually there is no need to do it for every post – just blacklist his blog URL in the forum Admin panel and it will XXXXXX his URL…)
He’s all over the place using numerous alter egos all posting to the same blog.

Please don’t bother to tell a moderator, we have quite enough to do already in our voluntary role.

If it is really important to you to to pursue a vendetta against a poster who does no particular harm we’d rather not be involved.

Moggy
Moderator

Isn’t inviting people to link to the blog which pays him per hit in contravention of the advertising C&C….? If his threads were locked immediately he’d probably get bored….not that it is that a serious a problem, I suppose.

Britmodeller doesn’t seem so kindly disposed to this poster

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234992055-the-most-secret-weapon-of-the-luftwaffe/

tell the owner, then a moderator. Pick one.

Please don’t bother to tell a moderator, we have quite enough to do already in our voluntary role.

If it is really important to you to to pursue a vendetta against a poster who does no particular harm we’d rather not be involved.

Moggy
Moderator

This is actually quite a complex question. Someone owned the intellectual property for every picture taken. Since such images, when sold as originals or licenced for another use, have a commercial value then a set of questions have to be asked. Are the pictures copyright free or copyright expired? If not then the use of those pictures is theft of commercial property. That a lot of webfolk abuse that right and reuse pictures that they have “found” somewhere on the web does not invalidate the rule of law. As I write this my wife’s copy of the UK Intellectual Property Law is 3 feet away over my right shoulder and I remember that time when a library assistant was prosecuted under that law for illegal photocopying to distribute to people who asked for the contents pages and she was fined £26000 in 1980s money. I also remember my fight when a group took an entire webpage complete with my pictures to add to their Griffon-engined tractor page.
Pampa14 or whatever the hell his name is is collecting other peoples images and collating them on his webpages. He then publicises these pages and we presume makes money from visits. I find some of his collections fascinating, with stuff I have never seen before. That does not necessarily make his idea of making money from collecting other folks pictures right or legal. The correct way to do it is to set up a page consisting of links to the owners of said intellectual property. If it was done that way then the owners might make money from traffic, although in my experience few are set up that way.
I asked a mod of this forum about the potential illegality and got a laissez-faire response. I can’t remember the exact words but the essence is that nothing would be done without a complaint from the original owner of the intellectual property.

So guys, I set you a task. Hit Pampa14’s webpostings and find a picture or two that are unequivocably owned by someone. If it is in a link that has turned up on this forum (and you guys know more about this en masse than anyone) then tell the owner, then a moderator. Pick one.

I’m not sure images can be “stolen” if they’re German wartime products?
Who would you get permission from….Goebbels estate? 🙂

But, for much of the content on this forum, especially since most of it took place before most of us were born and was invariably taken by official photographers working for the military/government anyway, aren’t we all content thieves?

The idea of using ‘stolen’ images seems to only be an issue on this forum, or so I’ve noticed.

…and he also references the websites he found them on, which is better than 99% of the web.

Adrian

OP appears to be a content thief…

But, for much of the content on this forum, especially since most of it took place before most of us were born and was invariably taken by official photographers working for the military/government anyway, aren’t we all content thieves?

For those mildly interested, the ‘stolen’ content is the Bachem Natter – a particularly desperate attempt to overturn the flow of the war.

No more of a troll than that guy that posts screenshots of flightsims on every post. OP appears to be a content thief, and only seems to post on here to promote their blog. Not trolling as such, but not contributing much either.