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A Question for Wysiwyg

Wysiwyg,

I live in Walsall in the West Midlands, about nine miles north of Birminham. I am obviously living underneath an airway, so can you confirm whether it is amber one west? Another airway is slightly to the east of me and goes over Lichfield/Tamworth. Can you tell me which one that is? I think Pole hill is on that one. And finally, there is often high level military traffic which goes across from East to West or reciprocally. I have seen F-15’s and 16’s using it as well as the occasional Jaguar and Tornado, also transports of various types. Is this the main route for military traffic having crossed the Atlantic?

Thank you in anticipation.

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By: wysiwyg - 7th December 2002 at 20:53

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You’re welcome Kev. I really enjoy being able to help solve aviation queries.

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By: kev35 - 7th December 2002 at 12:17

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Wysiwyg,

Thanks for the extremely informative reply, it’s much appreciated. I see what you mean about the military jets as there does seem to be no hard and fast rule about where they cross or indeed at what level. American transports seem to cross at a much higher level so perhaps they are in transit to Germany.

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By: wysiwyg - 7th December 2002 at 08:38

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Apologies for the lateness of the reply but I have been busy for the last few days. Looking at a map, the main piece of airspace above you is the class D Birmingham CTA (control area) from 1500′ up to FL45 (4500′) which is used for postioning aircraft for landing onto R15 or departing R33 at BHX. Above FL45 is the class A Daventry CTA which continues right up to the base of the airways above it. Slightly to the west of Walsall (running NW-SE, routing Wallasey-Honiley) is B3 with a base of FL55 and slightly to the east is A1 running NNW-SSE, routing Manchester-Honiley) with a base at FL80. The term ‘U’ in front of an airway designator actually stands for ‘upper’, although it is frequently (incorrectly) referred to as uniform, and means the higher part of that airway, if it exists. A1 becomes UA1 above FL195 and B3 becomes UB3. You will generally find the jets in the upper airways (except when climbing and descending) and the turboprops and the 146’s in the lower airways.

Military aircraft are a law unto themselves and frequently fly right through the middle of airways with no communication with the civilian controllers operating that sector. I have on several occasions had to be vectored around military radar contacts in the airways by pissed off controllers who have had no contact from the military traffic.

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By: EGNM - 5th December 2002 at 22:05

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AU – Otherwise known as “ALFA UNIFORM” is like the airway designater – the first part of its name. For example outbound traffic off off 14 at Leeds climbing towards UPTON en route to the east (Amsterdam for example) climb onto an airway designated UB1, but locally it is more commonly known as Bravo 1 – thats the jist of it as far as i known anyway!

A flight plan for example from Leeds to Paris CDG could run a routing of EGNM – POL1W – POL – UY98 – BARTN – UA1 – WOD – UA47 – SFD – UM605 – DPE3W – LFPG

This route translates roughly to Leeds Bradford Airport, onto a POLE HILL 1 WHISKEY Departure (otherwise known as a SID – Standard instrument departure which is a designated climb out routing) to POL – Pole hill. From POL hill a turn will be made onto the airway UY98 for a short trip to the BARTN intersection – funnily enough above Manchester Barton Aerodrome! at Barton onto the Airway UA1 – which routes down overhead HON – Honily down u’re way to WOD, Woodley VOR, then onto Airway UA47 to SFD (Seaford)onto UM605 to DPE. Once at DPE we will then follow a STAR – STandard Arrival Routing ( a precise routing into LFPG) and we will then arrive at CDG!!

Tadaaaaaaaaaaa!!

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By: kev35 - 5th December 2002 at 19:49

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Preston.

Thanks for that but for a thicko like me can you explain whay AU and UP means please?

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By: Ren Frew - 5th December 2002 at 11:46

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What You See Is What You Get… apparently ? There’s a folk group in Scotland using the same name.

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By: EGNM - 5th December 2002 at 11:31

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AU1 sounds like a possability down thru Honiley and UP6 to the east up through LESTA, TNT, Denby and up to POL are possabilities – WYSIWIG – also whilst the q’s are been asked what is with the name!!!

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