September 13, 2008 at 4:07 pm
I was browsing a danish Ebay type site and came across this allerged “original technical drawing” of a F-156-FIESELER STORCH.
According to the seller, the drawing was gifted by a german part of the family.
I have no knowledge of WWI area German technical drawings (but im pretty sure you don’t build aircraft after drawings like this), but if its original (for whatever purpose), I would bid (price is now 25£ with no bidders).
Would anyone dare to guess on its authenticity?
note: seller have 100% positive feedback.

By: Mondariz - 14th September 2008 at 06:58
Bless your eyesight JDK.
I had the tail marking as a cross, but I see the swastika outline now that you say it.
Seller mailed me and said the Spitfire has Dec 1940 as print date.
Thanks to Ryan for the links.
At 25£ a pop, I might put down a bid….
By: JDK - 14th September 2008 at 05:25
Clearly plans for scale models – the innacurate but working undercarriage on the Spitfire points to tyhem not being recognition models, as does the inclusion of a prop on the Storch.
Not sure how you classify a Storch scheme with a swastika on the tail as ‘postwar’? 😉 The crosses, like the position of the swastika on the rudder rather than the fin (or hinge line) and the duff registration just indicate a lack of care/knowledge of the real subject. They are not ‘red’ crosses, but incorrectly proporoned, and still legal Leftwaffe crosses.
The swastika makes it pre-45 if of German origin.
By: Arabella-Cox - 14th September 2008 at 04:10
If they are not wartime recognition plans, they are still probably quite old. They look very similar to the ones here:
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/
You can find most of the old WWII Navy recognition plans online (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/index.php?cat=13) and a lot of them are very similar to that style of drawing. My guess is that it’s early post-WWII.
Ryan
By: steve_p - 13th September 2008 at 21:45
Why would the Spitfire be specific to K5054, when no German would ever meet that aircraft?
Because whoever drew up the plan knew the serial of only one Spit?
The drawings look like typical wartime model aircraft plans to me.
Best wishes
Steve P
By: Mondariz - 13th September 2008 at 20:28
I think they are a little too elaborate for recognition models. Why would the Spitfire be specific to K5054, when no German would ever meet that aircraft?
The drawings above look more like recognition models. They are not made with too many unimportant details, that can confure the “spotter”, but with attention to specific design features, that makes them easy to recognise.
I also find the lack of wartime markings on the Storch to point towards post-war period, where those markings were illegal.
By: RPSmith - 13th September 2008 at 19:59
Quite possible they are wartime – intended for construction as recognition models.
Coincidentally I have just today put a 1944/45 model plan for a Henschel Hs293 “Glider Bomb” on evilbay. It’s original price was 1/= and I suspect it was sold for that purpose.
Roger Smith.
By: DazDaMan - 13th September 2008 at 18:31
I’m not saying they’re not wartime, that’s just what they look like to me.
By: Mondariz - 13th September 2008 at 18:01
They look like plans for building kids’ toys out of wood. I remember a few years back there was a magazine which had pull-out plans for building a Spit and a Messerschmitt 109 – they looked quite similar.
The end results were quite nice, too, though I never attempted to build my own.
So you are guessing, that they are not wartime, but a later magazine pull-out?
Sounds likely.
Also looks post-war as the Storch has a D reg and what appears to be red cross markings (not luftwaffe).
By: Newforest - 13th September 2008 at 17:52
Registration on the model is definitely K5054.
By: DazDaMan - 13th September 2008 at 17:34
They look like plans for building kids’ toys out of wood. I remember a few years back there was a magazine which had pull-out plans for building a Spit and a Messerschmitt 109 – they looked quite similar.
The end results were quite nice, too, though I never attempted to build my own.
By: chumpy - 13th September 2008 at 17:22
Looks like K5054 the prototype.
By: Mondariz - 13th September 2008 at 16:42
The Spitfire might be of interest, if it truely is a wartime german model drawing.
Unfortunatly I can’t read the registration, but I can mail the seller. Could be funny if that bird was still around.

By: Mondariz - 13th September 2008 at 16:37
Yup they look like model plans to me,… being of German origin the instructions had to be carried out to the letter no doubt!!
Or else!
By: chumpy - 13th September 2008 at 16:34
Yup they look like model plans to me,… being of German origin the instructions had to be carried out to the letter no doubt!!
By: Mondariz - 13th September 2008 at 16:22
It appears that seller have 2 more drawings of the same type.
One of a Spitfire and one of a Curtiss P-36.
Could they have been used for modeling?