September 10, 2005 at 12:42 pm
The Hurricane from Finnish Air Force Museum, Hurricane Mk. I HC-452 that fought in the Continuation War in Finland vs. Russian forces was on display on the Finnish army fair this weekend. I took a bit of video of the plane and put the initial version of it here:
http://www.byterapers.com/~grendel/scan/video/hurricane_v1.wmv
Enjoy, Hurri fans.
By: Grendel - 12th September 2005 at 11:30
It’s not a swastika at all (I’ve forgotten its name, however).
Also, don’t the arms point in different directions?
It is a swastika, just like the Indian and Asian swastikas are swastikas. And the Finnish word for it is also same. But not a Nazi swastika, just like the Latvian swastika was not one. The differences are the rotation and color (usually, generally blue on Air Force, black on ground vehicles), and of course the history – taken into use in 1918 and still in use today, though not as a national insignia in the vehicles themselves for the well known reasons.
As example, Latvian AF insignia 1918-1940, Red swastika on white background, at 45 degrees. Used until the Soviet invasion of Latvia 1940:

By: JonathanF - 12th September 2005 at 10:51
It’s not a swastika at all (I’ve forgotten its name, however).
Also, don’t the arms point in different directions?
Two posts up: “Von Rosen Cross”.
It’s a swastika (simply a type of symbol) and is the same orientation as the Nazi version (though those were usually rotated 45 degrees) but by all accounts has nothing to do with the Nazi one. Therefore it’s not a chilling reminder of anything, regardless of political alliances etc that went on; it’s co-incidental. And it’s blue, too.
By: Scarecrow - 12th September 2005 at 02:35
It’s not a swastika at all (I’ve forgotten its name, however).
Also, don’t the arms point in different directions?
By: Alex Crawford - 11th September 2005 at 18:34
Some very nice photos of a very historic aircraft. There can’t be many veterns of WWII in their original, genuine colours.
Alex
By: Grendel - 11th September 2005 at 16:24
A Hurricane with Swastikas…a chilling vision of what might have been…
This is no “what might have been” but “what was”.
This plane flew in WW2/Continuation War against Soviets in this form, after having bought from Britain in 1940, and is credited with 2 and half aerial victories. Other British aircraft that flew in Finnish color, wearing Finnish swastika (or Von Rosen Cross as we tend to call it unofficially), are Blenheims, Lysanders and Gladiators.
See:
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/fighters.html#Buldoggi
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/fighters.html#Gladiaattori
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/fighters.html#Hurrikaani
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/bombers.html#blennu
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/recon.html#Lysander
By: Grendel - 11th September 2005 at 16:21
More photos of the Hurricane etc, from the “Defence & Security Fair 2005” that had very sizable Finnish defence forces presentation. As well as the Hurricane the Finnish Air Force section had a WW2 fighter pilot as visitor each day giving a n interview to the audience:
http://www.byterapers.com/~grendel/photos/mp_messut_2005/index.html
Example:
Pictured: the 32 victory Curtiss Hawk / Messerschmitt 109 pilot Kyösti Karhila.
By: JonathanF - 10th September 2005 at 17:39
Thanks for sharing this. A Hurricane with Swastikas…a chilling vision of what might have been…
DS
Not really; the origins of the Finnish swastika are quite distinct from those of the Nazi “corporate logo” and it predates the latter as a symbol by at least a decade.
By: Rlangham - 10th September 2005 at 16:30
Very nice, thanks. I love the look of Hurricanes, especially with the early pointy DH Prop and spinner
By: Grendel - 10th September 2005 at 16:22
And some older photos of mine of the same plane:
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/photoreports/helsinginpuolustus2004/
By: DocStirling - 10th September 2005 at 14:11
Thanks for sharing this. A Hurricane with Swastikas…a chilling vision of what might have been…
DS