AA a close call

This reminds me, do some airlines run ‘fear of flying’ courses? I remember hearing somewhere that some airlines did so?

Yes, Virgin does, as has been said. I think there are others, too.
A colleague who is terrified of flying was going on a round-the-world honeymoon last summer, so I recommended Virgin’s course. She baulked at the price, so I could only conclude that she wasn’t as frightened of flying as she said.

I found this one run by VS….

http://www.flyingwithoutfear.info/thecourses.htm

This reminds me, do some airlines run ‘fear of flying’ courses? I remember hearing somewhere that some airlines did so?

I’ve heard this too…probably find some aircrew attend them as well…:D

To be honest Dave that’s like saying – “phew, if I’d crossed the railway line when that train was coming I would have been dead”.
It was a non event and happens all the time. Going into large airports the approach controllers will sequence the aircraft in pretty tight, normally dependant on whether the same runway is being used for takeoff (i.e. Gatwick) will depend on the amount of separation, if you have departing traffic too they’ll normally space the aircraft out a bit more. If the runway is being used solely for landing then the wake turbulence separation minima can be as low as 3 miles, if this is the case then it requires the aircraft that has landed to expedite the runway exit. This can be done with the advent of R.E.Ts, or Rapid Exit Taxiways. If the wake turbulence separation minima being applied is the minimum, ATC will normally tell the preceding aircraft to “expect late landing clearance”. In your case, all that has happened is that the landed aircraft has not exited as fast as he should, and ATC told your aircraft to “Go Around”.
Very common at large airports.

Dean

Well for what it’s worth this above is actually what happens, and what “most likely” happened in Dave’s case. The problem the internet suffers from is alot of armchair experts who think they know everything (hell, I’m in the industry and in relative terms I know nothing). You only have to check some Youtube videos to see what I mean. However, I think we are reasonably lucky on these boards as there are alot of knowledgeable people.

there are not many true pilots on this board. not enough people called Rodger, Over or Out.

whilst its true that you can be who you want to be on the interweb i’m sure everyone here are who they say they are, hell who in the right mind would come on a aviation forum and pose as a car mechanic if it wasn’t true? hell i could have been a pilot that served in iraq.

i am sure everyone here are genuine. and just to set the record straight, i only said it loud enough for my better half to hear, there was a seasoned passenger beside her feared for his life and i know he did not hear it.

This reminds me, do some airlines run ‘fear of flying’ courses? I remember hearing somewhere that some airlines did so?

It’s true you just have to read “The Bluffer’s Guide to Flying” and you could come across as a seasoned aviator. Or doctor or whatever.

D.Healey, I am not having a go at yourself, just trying to convey how my other half would have reacted. My daughter has a fobia about flying and has to take medication before a flight, if she overheard your conversation whilst on your flight she would have a severe panic attack which is no fun whilst in flight believe me.

Neil, with the knowledge I now know about flight and the help of Google and these forums, I could come on as a new poster and have you believe I am a working pilot, so unless you know the poster you have no proof as to their credentials. I have been on many forums of varying subjects and there are some Walter Mitty’s out there. Remember the movie “Catch Me If You Can”?

Would this be a bad time to tell you that we’ve seen the Chilli Contest thing umpteen times already? :diablo:

hahaha i copied that back in 06 i think? i read or try read it twice maybe 3 times a year and i still can’t finish the damn thing 😆

In some respects maybe the answers in some posts are from professionals who fly,mend, planes ect ect .surely it would be good mannered of these members to try and remember not everyone on here is a professional in the aviation industry .Members like me who just have a total love of aviation but started out with no knowledge of aviation at all have over the years got lots of great info and have learned loads .no if you want to know about security i can baffle you all with it but would not do that i would explain what you wanted in laymens terms instead of making fun and making you feel datf for asking .So come on guys lets make everyone welcome and not be too witty in replies it will make this a better place
neil
i did once hear a rumour pilots do sometimes laugh

….aircraft that stopped for lunch on the runway”.

Perhaps it was the chilli?

And there certainly are crew that are well behind the aircraft…

Would this be a bad time to tell you that we’ve seen the Chilli Contest thing umpteen times already? :diablo:

you should know your wives better than you know your self and vise verse, Sarah knows my nature and my humour and she actually laughed when i said what i said.

so yes i still dont see why so many knickers got twisted here?

i’m a good mechanic, its my job sometime people make little cracks of humour towards my work and i brush it off so if pilots cant see a little fun in what they do then they should find another job?

holy trainwreck batman, i posted a little story that turned into a bashing session. is this how you treat all new comers?

…..p.s. If I made the remark to my wife that the original poster made to his wife during the landing I wouldn’t be replying to this now as she would have freaked. Be careful what you say during a flight you may put others off for life.

Exactly the point I was making in post #2.

I have to agree with Niel to some extent. When I first started posting it was from a recommendation from a bloke I met at Edinburgh airport. I then was more interested in flight sim so he told me about a good tutorial on the forum regarding ILS landing. I knew there were working pilots on this forum, so thought what better place, but some of my replies were what you could say rather “grey” in tone and more professional than light hearted, but I suppose if it’s your job then you take it seriously and there will always be forum members with more sense of humour than others. If we were all the same it would be a rather boring world. That said it’s still an informative forum worth posting on.

p.s. If I made the remark to my wife that the original poster made to his wife during the landing I wouldn’t be replying to this now as she would have freaked. Be careful what you say during a flight you may put others off for life.

so before you go gettin all up tight and red faced..go read this first..
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=104184

oh dear, looks like some cans came out of the pram. hell even kamikazi pilots were good at thier job. seems like some of you have no sense of humor? here i have a tip….next time you go to purchase something go into a video shop and get a couple of box sets, make sure they have comedy stamped on them.

you can get all upset if you want that i called a pilot a kamikazi pilot, but you must readd into humor. or meet me and know what i’m about, most things like 99.9% of me likes fun. i take very little serious and can make a light hearted crack at even the worst things.

thats all gents, play nice 🙂

Someone mentioned moderators wearing two hats? Surely they are not implying that any of the moderating team are two faced? I can vouch for the fact that Grey Area is NOT two faced. I’ve met him and if he was then surely he would wear the other one.:D

Regards,

An aesthetically challenged kev35

Moderator Message

Let’s just discuss the aeroplanes, shall we?

I’m quite sure that D.Healey meant no harm or disrespect.

Regards

GA

Why get so het up ?

Maybe this forum would not be so quiet if all you guys were maybe just a little bit more friendly.I have to say this forum is so good at smart alec answers members who join soon leave or dont post .Have a think about it guys and grey area i have reported you more than once and has a moderator you should not encourage it or join in .With that i will close the door on the way out and the way the forum is going it wont be long before its closed for good .

neil

Neil
Why close the forum?
Grey Area (as a human being) can say what he likes and he knows if he oversteps the limits he will be advised by his fellow moderators.
In this case there are issues in the initial post that may be derogatory to a pilot who executed a fairly routine procedure given the set of circumstances at a possibly very busy airport.
That does not make him a bad pilot or warrant insults.
If there was anything out of the ordinary that breached safety either by the ATC or the pilot, records will clearly show, and incident reports will have been filed if there were breaches in safety.
In this case everyone on board were safe and the aircraft intact.
So why be concerned about a moderator wearing in this case both hats, remarking on the inflamatory initial words used?