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Abandoned victor

🙂 Hi i was watching discovery wings the other night ,the programme was about the victor bomber, and at the very end it showed an abandoned victor on a old airfield ,does any one know of its where abouts, and does any one find it annoying ,that such fantastic and historical aircraft should be allowed to deteriorate. Why cant they be donated or sold to a museum or enthuaist.:mad:

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By: contentd - 30th April 2007 at 11:39

Oh I like ya website BTW. Bex

So does someone at Microsoft UK it seems… It’s just won a prize in a “Showcase Live Local” competition they were running.

I`m now the proud owner of two copies of Vista Ultimate… (I already use it, like it and don`t have problems… so please no thread creep about the merits of Vista…)

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By: bexWH773 - 28th April 2007 at 10:47

Oh good, I thought Id put me foot in it again, Im good at that 😀 Oh I like ya website BTW. Bex

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By: contentd - 28th April 2007 at 10:38

Not offended at all Bex…

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By: bexWH773 - 28th April 2007 at 10:12

A bit harsh? It’s too far for me to travel. That’s not the same thing as poo pooing your efforts.

SOrry I have an overactive sense of humour, it keeps getting me into trouble, hope I didnt offend. If I did that wasnt the intention. Bex

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By: contentd - 28th April 2007 at 10:07

Ok my friend, next poo pooing answer please :p Bex

A bit harsh? It’s too far for me to travel. That’s not the same thing as poo pooing your efforts.

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By: bexWH773 - 28th April 2007 at 00:00

Sadly 150 miles is a bit too far away for me to lend a hand… but hopefully you’ll find some willing hands.

Well come on then wot did u have for lunch then???? Also, if u look at our newsletters, theres a nice article about a chap called Dougie who comes down from Bonnie Scotland to play aeroplanes, I finally met him today funnily enough. Ok my friend, next poo pooing answer please :p Bex

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By: contentd - 27th April 2007 at 23:53

She needs some serious TLC any takers? Bex

Sadly 150 miles is a bit too far away for me to lend a hand… but hopefully you’ll find some willing hands.

Just looking through the history section on your Website this bit brought back some memories…

“543 Squadron was looted for B.2s to make the K.2s, and as a result the squadron was disbanded in May 1974.”

I can’t remember now whether or not your XL 164 was a 543 aircraft, I don`t think it was… but I do remember as a sprog J/T Airframe Fitter fresh out of Halton on my first posting not being allowed on the disbandment parade because I`d sent my best blue to the dry cleaners in anticipation of the great day and subsequent p**s up, but sadly I`d forgotten to take my plastic name tag out of the breast pocket.. it came back from the dry cleaners with a great big stain where it had melted…

I`m told it’s a sign of age when you can recall events like these but can`t remember what you had for lunch.

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By: bexWH773 - 27th April 2007 at 22:44

Victor Survivor (ish)

We have a bit of Victor history too, can be seen here at:
www.gatwick-aviation-museum.co.uk click on the Victor 😀 She needs some serious TLC any takers? Bex

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By: contentd - 27th April 2007 at 22:31

Just came across this in an old flight mag apropos the engines in the wing roots sub thread…and EN830 you’re right about the Tupolevs but discounting Eastern Bloc aircraft of the time I still wonder if this was the reason it never happened.. or in reality it was probably more likely the launch of the 707 that did for it…

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/HP111.jpg

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By: MerlinPete - 12th February 2007 at 20:57

Interesting point about the weakness of the blades.
They are extremely light and quite thin, but the root loading is plain to see by the sheer weight and structure of the hub.
We acquired the fan to load piston engines on test, but ended up not using it, which is just as well, because there is a huge split (not just a crack!) where the pin goes through one of the blade roots! A fact I did not discover until later, while cleaning it 😮

Gives me visions of supesonic knife-throwing!

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By: Robert Hilton - 12th February 2007 at 19:24

A couple my Victor bits. One is a compressor blade from XL232 after it’s demise on the runway. The other is the HP emblem fitted to the yolk

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By: Robert Hilton - 9th February 2007 at 19:53

Not sure, I always assumed it was the first stage fan because that is what I recall Marine Salvage saying it was. (albeit a very long time ago!) It is certainly from a Victor Conway. It is 36 1/2″ dia. if that helps!
Did all Victor Conways have a zero stage, or was that a mod introduced during service?

Pete

The zero stage was added during it’s Blue Steel days if I remember right. It was still fitted when they were converted to K2’s. They gave us alot of problems being light alloy and so long. At least four failed while I was working on them (1982-1986).

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By: MerlinPete - 9th February 2007 at 17:27

Is that a zero stage?

Not sure, I always assumed it was the first stage fan because that is what I recall Marine Salvage saying it was. (albeit a very long time ago!) It is certainly from a Victor Conway. It is 36 1/2″ dia. if that helps!
Did all Victor Conways have a zero stage, or was that a mod introduced during service?

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By: Steve T - 9th February 2007 at 16:01

Hi all–

If the link works, here are a couple pix of my Victor souvenir…the first officer’s M-B “bang seat” from Victor K.2 XL191 that crashlanded at Mt.Hope in June 1986. (One of the cockpit sections Richard refers to comes from XL191; it’s in Walter Soplata’s collection in Ohio.)

http://rides.webshots.com/album/554189036JaaZej

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By: RMAllnutt - 9th February 2007 at 15:13

Me too… Enough to make you weep, but I did manage to get airborne in one once.. unforgettable experience.

The Survivors…

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/aviation/airfields/Cosford.html XH 672
http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/aviation/airfields/Marham.html XH673
http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/aviation/airfields/Elvington.html XL231
http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/aviation/airfields/Bruntingthorpe.html XM715

You forgot B.1A(K2P) XH648 at Duxford, but you are right, it is a crying shame that more could not be saved. At least there are 6 or 7 cockpit sections surviving… which is more than you could say for the poor old Valiant.

Cheers. Richard

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By: RPSmith - 9th February 2007 at 12:05

Just out of curiousity, while all the Victor experts are looking 🙂 does anyone know the serial number of the Victor that ran off the runway at Gaydon during an “At Home” display in the early 60s(?)

Part of the display was the “Four Minute Take-Off” – a popular and very exciting demo of four Victors scrambling and getting airbourne in 4 minutes. Starting up and moving off the ORP the 2nd or 3rd aircraft failed to turn soon enough and ran over the opposite edge of the runway onto the grass – blocking the end of the runway!

Roger Smith.

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By: Robert Hilton - 9th February 2007 at 06:41

Here`s my little bit of preserved Victor. It`s on the wall of our kitchen, where else?! 🙂

(It matched the decor rather well)

Pete

Is that a zero stage?

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By: MerlinPete - 8th February 2007 at 21:15

It’s abit of a killer seeing all those shots, especially as I spent so much time keeping them together.

Here`s my little bit of preserved Victor. It`s on the wall of our kitchen, where else?! 🙂

(It matched the decor rather well)

Pete

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By: EN830 - 8th February 2007 at 17:14

Not British I know, but :-

TU124, credit to www.aviation.ru
http://www.aviation.ru/jno/Monino98/tu124.jpg

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By: Robert Hilton - 8th February 2007 at 16:47

XL391

Robert… The Jonah stuff sounds as though it was all a bit after my time, but it wasn`t the only one to punch through it’s forward jacking points…

Well that was post Falklands. Indeed it wasn’t the only one to do it. We found out later that there was a restriction on fuel-load and nose jacking. Due to alot of postings, that kind of gen was lost to us and we had to find out for ourselves. As I’m sure you know, the AP’s were not exactly comprehensive.

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