Aegis-comparable systems in other navies?

Hello

MR-710 Fregat-MA/Top Plate 3D Radar

Look more like MARS-PASSAT to me

Hello

MR-710 Fregat-MA/Top Plate 3D Radar

I’ll post some radar info for the related naval SAM systems tonight after I get home from work.

Also, how powerful in terms of searching are the radars aboard the Sovremenny/Slava/Kirov

Umm? The Pyotr as of now if probaby about 3x as useful as any Ticonderoga, apart from SAMs, and I wouldn’t trust the PAC-2 over the S-300FM.

The US ships’ anti-ship capabilities are rubbish.

Are the Russians planning to upgrade their Slavas with the S-300FM or not?

And can we expect to see the S-300FM on the Nakhimov/Lazarev when they are taken out of refit?

And TOMB STONE on Pyotr Veliky for the SA-N-20 (S-300FM).

I’d wager that a fully operational Veliky (funding permitting, of course 😀 ) would be as effective as an AEGIS cruiser.

Fregat, together with Cross Sword for the guidance of Kinzhal on Neustrashimy and Udaloy
Fregat together with Orekh on Sovremenny
Top Pair and Fregat with Top Dome on Kirov and Slava, together with a bunch of other systems for the other SAMs. Including Cross Sword on Velikiy (for Kinzhal)and Pop Group on Slavas for OSA-MA.
So basically, they don’t have everything netted, they always need additional radars for the guidance of their SAM systems.
It has its advantages too though.

So what are the Russians using on their Neustrashimiys/Udaloys/Sovremennys/Slavas/Kirovs?

S, the top plate in indian service is called FREGAT. any info you have on FREGAT would be nice.

Lets not confuse the radar’s name (FREGAT) with its kind (FREquency SCAN)

yes please send it to me. I will PM you my email addy. the indian
version has a short desc in BR.

” Air/Surface Search; One Fregat M2EM (NATO: Top Plate) 3D circular scan radar at E-band frequency, provides target indication to the Shtil-1 missile system. Featuring continuous electronically scanned arrays, the radar rotates at 12 or 6 rpm and has an instrumented range to 300 km. “

What type of Fregat? There are several (I think 4) versions of Fregat around. If you wish I can send you a Milparade article about these versions, comparing them.

There is always the NTU which some argue is just as good as aegis if not better.

S, the top plate in indian service is called FREGAT. any info you have on FREGAT would be nice.

I have my doubts about the EMPAR and SAMSON. Rotating arrays always have the disadvantage of mechanical problems. I suppose you don’t want to keep those things turning and radars really break down from turning them on and off, not from letting them contiuously turn.
Top Plate, don’t know that system exactly, it’s called FRESCAN, Frequency Scan not really phased array.
All turning arrays have a non-continuous cover and by making them turn faster, you might overheat their bearings.

Great!

Thanks for the info, guys 🙂

Another couple dumb questions… how do the non-European radars (Israeli/Indian, Chinese) compare to the Spy-1, in terms of capabilities, ranges?

Can anyone reccomend a nice url/resource where someone with no previous knowlege of naval systems, can learn about modern ones?

Thanks again
Raj

the rotating phased array EMPAR and SAMPSON radars and their
associated combat systems will soon be the top naval air defence
systems. italy, france, uk.

China also has a phased array radar on 052C ships (2 building).
and top plate on other ships.

India has the top-plate phased array radar on 3 ships. the
ganga & godavari have a Elta phased array.

phased array radars are a commodity item now, but aegis-like
combat systems are not,

what makes it Formidable? Simple answer, NOTHING.
What made it formidable? The interface between the searchradar, tracking radar (same), illuminators and weapons. It comprised every single step of the defence. It could be put on fully automatic, engaging automatically the targets that were considered as most dangerous by the system and put on semi-auto, where a human hand was still involved.
Also the first use of the SPY-1 radar, which was about the first radar able to track up to 700 targets at a time (I think). Which was of course a major improvement. And the non-rotating antenna, giving full time cover of all sectors.

Here’s two other systems using planar phased arrays
Dutch: APAR (Thales)
Israeli: MF-STAR (Elta)