June 6, 2008 at 8:05 am
An Indian court has upheld the right of state-owned Air India to ground overweight flight attendants.
Lawyers for the airline told the court the attendants were moved from flight duty to ground duty when they failed to meet minimum physical fitness standards, the Hindu newspaper reported.
The Delhi High Court said on Wednesday the attendants’ contracts stipulated their jobs could be terminated if they put on too much weight, according to the paper.
The court said the state-run airline needed fit flight attendants to compete with private rivals in India’s fiercely competitive aviation market.
“The entry of private airlines in the business has resulted in severe competition,” the judges said in their ruling.
The airline “has to meet this challenge by ensuring that its air hostesses and cabin crew members remained physically fit.”
“There has been much debate about skinny bodies vis-a-vis healthy bodies, but there is no scope for any debate on overweight people,” the judges added.
“It is universally accepted that overweight people have tendency to suffer from diseases,” the judges said
By: KabirT - 10th June 2008 at 07:38
Kabir..i think you’re Singapore Airlines best advocate
Looks like so…. SQ should be showering me with some Raffles class goodies eh. :rolleyes:
By: steve rowell - 10th June 2008 at 07:30
ah alright. Sounds good. The only muck up i have been through SQ is when my parents were flying with me. We had ordered one chicken dish meal for my dad, and what he got was just…..boiled chicken with some sauce. We compltained about it and got atleast 3 apology letters from SQ from catering, flight services and the Delhi office. Quite fantastic.
Kabir..i think you’re Singapore Airlines best advocate
By: KabirT - 10th June 2008 at 07:06
I remember a few years ago i was in singapore and had to get back to the US in a hurry , i got a good deal on SQ for singapore-LAX flight and took it and i was really satisfied , its a long flight that route (i usually travel through europe to US east coast) but even their economy product was very good , excellent service and i actually got some sleep.
Ours is a Consultancy company for production Line and manuf. facility setup in aerospace , automobiles etc etc . We consult most of the top automobile manuf. in india , japan , malaysia regarding their production and future production facilities . I worked in the aerospace side of the buisness since i joined it only recently to have switched to autos..
ah alright. Sounds good. The only muck up i have been through SQ is when my parents were flying with me. We had ordered one chicken dish meal for my dad, and what he got was just…..boiled chicken with some sauce. We compltained about it and got atleast 3 apology letters from SQ from catering, flight services and the Delhi office. Quite fantastic.
By: steve rowell - 10th June 2008 at 06:21
Steve,
I don’t think you have flown in the US lately. It is definately not the 60’s any more!
Bill
Boston, Massachusetts:o
Actually i was in the US last year and flew with American..although the crew in business maybe different to those up back of the aircraft ..i’ve always found the cabin crews to be a bit older in the US but quite slim pleasant and courteous
By: bring_it_on - 9th June 2008 at 19:31
I remember a few years ago i was in singapore and had to get back to the US in a hurry , i got a good deal on SQ for singapore-LAX flight and took it and i was really satisfied , its a long flight that route (i usually travel through europe to US east coast) but even their economy product was very good , excellent service and i actually got some sleep.
may i ask where you work bring_it_on?
Ours is a Consultancy company for production Line and manuf. facility setup in aerospace , automobiles etc etc . We consult most of the top automobile manuf. in india , japan , malaysia regarding their production and future production facilities . I worked in the aerospace side of the buisness since i joined it only recently to have switched to autos..
By: KabirT - 9th June 2008 at 18:04
hmm interesting…. my trips on BA into LHR even in business have been average although now i usually take 9W to LHR on Y (thanks oil prices).
When going to Melbourne….for the past 6 years i have only taken SQ. Both business and cattle and i just cant think of taking anything else. Even last time i thought i would try the new 9W/Qantas link but didn’t do it. SQ has additional dawn flights into Delhi now… departing DEL at 8 am i think which is a good time.
may i ask where you work bring_it_on?
By: bring_it_on - 9th June 2008 at 10:39
Talking about cabin service i dont think anyone from US or Europe (feel free to correct) is providing superior services such as EK, SQ etc.
BA , VS provide good service , specially in buisness and first , their service is pretty good even on older aircraft (BA) . SQ is at another level alltogether and i dont think comfort wise EK can be compared to them , first of all the airport in Singapore is much much nicer then the one in dubai which is crowded , smelly and has rude staff . Secondly every aircraft you fly on EK has a diferent config , they have 2 or 3 different buisness class configs i believe and the dreaded 10 abreast on the T-7’s . I prefer SQ buisness as the best in the world , specially for long trips (am dying to take the Singapore – New york all buisness class flight (probably christmas this year) ) and flying through singapore is always fun (i work in asia now for the last year or so , so i shuffle between india , japan , singapore and malaysia) . I found 9W buisness class to be better then EK (was upgraded on 9W on my way back to the states) .
By: KabirT - 9th June 2008 at 10:12
I guess i’ll just conviniently blame my parents.
Talking about cabin service i dont think anyone from US or Europe (feel free to correct) is providing superior services such as EK, SQ etc.
Although the service on my recent DEL-VIE on OS was good the service was efficient but average.
By: bring_it_on - 9th June 2008 at 08:32
sadly my existance wasent destined at that time
Mine wasnt either , but i still had a few years of that as a youngster before it all changed 😉
By: bring_it_on - 9th June 2008 at 08:31
Well, true mostly. Till now most of AA’s direct Chicago services are seeing pretty good load factors. Infact every airline coming into India is seeing good load factors. The Indian traveller still does not have the luxury of choosing from a few number of flights for destinations to the US and Europe as well.
From what i see every international airline is seeing good passenger numbers from India, which is not surprising since still there are not enough flights servicing the worlds largest middle class.
and nice pictures from “the good old days”… sadly my existance wasent destined at that time.
Load factors are different then profitability , INDIA – US flights are increasing in number , and even though their is good demand for seats there is still plenty of pricing pressure , and with fuel prices high i doubt that many PAX will pay a premium for it given cheaper LH or 9W flights which are 1 stop and both airlines have good buisness model set up so can price more attractivly. I have heard that AI is not making too much money from its non stop US flights , one of my co-workers flew into JFK a few months ago and said their were barely 50 people onboard (new delhi – JFK non stop) .
By: steve rowell - 9th June 2008 at 07:58
the good old days –
Ah memories!!
By: KabirT - 9th June 2008 at 07:03
I think IT better look @ its buisness model if it wishes to go international and be succesfull , I think that starting out with Non-stop sectors is not going to be profitable specially with oil so high and buisness traffic dropping as a result (Either to cheaper airlines or no travel at all) . 9W has a good hub going at brussels , a very sound buisness move , they can basically grow from there and 90% of their flights to NA will be through there . They can make shanghai their smaller hub and direct flights to LAX , SFO , seatle etc from that . Good buisness sence . Non-stop flights from the subcontinent to most US cities wont be profitable until oil prices drop , biusnesses are back on its feet (Economic upturn) and we have New 787,350 jets well established in the market .
Well, true mostly. Till now most of AA’s direct Chicago services are seeing pretty good load factors. Infact every airline coming into India is seeing good load factors. The Indian traveller still does not have the luxury of choosing from a few number of flights for destinations to the US and Europe as well.
From what i see every international airline is seeing good passenger numbers from India, which is not surprising since still there are not enough flights servicing the worlds largest middle class.
and nice pictures from “the good old days”… sadly my existance wasent destined at that time. :p
By: bring_it_on - 9th June 2008 at 06:58
I find the stewardesses in the US to be rather attractive than overweight
the good old days –


By: steve rowell - 9th June 2008 at 01:42
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1964521/posts?page=59
By: steve rowell - 9th June 2008 at 00:59
Steve,
I don’t think you have flown in the US lately. It is definately not the 60’s any more!
Bill
Boston, Massachusetts:o
I find the stewardesses in the US to be rather attractive than overweight
By: bkonner - 8th June 2008 at 23:59
I don’t think in all my years of flying i’ve ever come across any overweight cabin crew
Steve,
I don’t think you have flown in the US lately. It is definately not the 60’s any more!
Bill
Boston, Massachusetts:o
By: wawkrk - 8th June 2008 at 18:19
In some parts of the world,I imagine a few tubby flight attendents are not the real problem.Its the 100 or so extra tons at the back with the coke & burger processors wedged into their seats.:rolleyes:
By: bring_it_on - 8th June 2008 at 17:06
I think IT better look @ its buisness model if it wishes to go international and be succesfull , I think that starting out with Non-stop sectors is not going to be profitable specially with oil so high and buisness traffic dropping as a result (Either to cheaper airlines or no travel at all) . 9W has a good hub going at brussels , a very sound buisness move , they can basically grow from there and 90% of their flights to NA will be through there . They can make shanghai their smaller hub and direct flights to LAX , SFO , seatle etc from that . Good buisness sence . Non-stop flights from the subcontinent to most US cities wont be profitable until oil prices drop , biusnesses are back on its feet (Economic upturn) and we have New 787,350 jets well established in the market .
By: KabirT - 8th June 2008 at 13:34
I agree… but 9W is still a new player by international standards. Perhaps with more experience they will get better. The owner, Naresh Goyal is an ex-SQ man himself and uses SQ as his base model for 9W.
IT is good in service as well (except usually the food part). They are specially good in ground handling at the chaotic Indian airports. In air not too much to complain but still a long way to go to achieve 9W status.
After buying Deccan IT is definitely a big player and now both IT and 9W are eying SpiceJet. There co-existence in the international skies will be a good thing for India in general.
By: bring_it_on - 8th June 2008 at 11:19
I dont mind the Looks , However i also want service . 9W internationally has excellent service however everytime i have flown with them my choice of meal hasnt been their irrespective if i am sitting in the front , middle or back of the aircraft . Eventually it would be the work ethic that will matter and thats where airlines like SQ really score , their Staff always goes out of the way to help the customer .