By: wysiwyg - 4th July 2005 at 20:55
Yes a nm is longer than a sm. As well as monitoring actual fuel usage we also monitor predicted usage so you wouldn’t go so far as to get nearly there and then run out. You’d see problems arising way in advance and make your decision to splash and dash en-route early.
By: LBARULES - 4th July 2005 at 15:26
Great minds think alike eh Dan ;).
By: LBARULES - 4th July 2005 at 15:26
How many topics do we need on Air Scandic!
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=44936
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=44959
No they havent gone bust, though they are having big delays seemingly.
By: wannabe pilot - 4th July 2005 at 15:25
Best to have a glance down the page before you post a new thread.
By: David2386 - 4th July 2005 at 11:15
Unless you really do get some strong headwinds across the pond, I don’t think you should have any worry in a 757 making it across, then you have a choice of fields down the east coast of Canada.
Actually, a nautical mile is more than a ‘normal’ mile. 1nm = about 1.15 (or is it 1.1515) miles.
An extra 2hours to cross the Atlantic is a lot :S, but surely they would have at the least, planned for a rather strong headwind from the forecasts and been able to stop into Gander, Halifax, St.Johns…
Distance between the two will depend on what route you plan and which one you actually get across the Atlantic. Not everyones’ FMC will be reading the DTG as 4204nm 😀
By: MyTravel84 - 4th July 2005 at 10:13
Just seems like they are cutting it a bit fine. Strong head winds would increase the fuel consumption and over the atlantic, i imagine it can happen quite often, not many places to divert over the atlantic. Heard about an excel 767 that took 2hours longer to cross the atlantic due to unanticipated strong head winds!! The figure of 3664 was for the shortest route between manchester and orlando. Presume 3500nm was for a full capacity 757-200 – the range was taken off the excel web site. A simple way of looking at it is that it takes roughly 9 hours, the average cruising speed is 500mph thats up to 4500.
NB a nautical mile is less than a normal hence 4217 miles is 3664 nautical miles. All aeroplane ranges are quoted in nautical miles.
By: wysiwyg - 4th July 2005 at 09:46
The Finnair 757’s have 227 seats. MTOW of 115T. Compared with the RR 757’s the PW ones have a higher MZFW and MLAW.
They may have the seat numbers on board but they won’t be able to sell them all and achieve the range. The RR powered ones I have flown had a MZFW of 83.5T and a choice of MLW of 90T or 95.25T depending on how you wanted to certify them. What are the figures for the P&W powered version? I don’t expect they would be any higher in reality.
By: Dan05 - 4th July 2005 at 00:34
Range at optional max takeoff weight with P&W engines 7277km (3929nm)
By: Flex 35 - 3rd July 2005 at 22:55
I actually have it as 4202.4 nautical miles for EGCC-KSFB. That site must not be accurate, it also depends on what route they are actually taking to SFB.
Flex 35
By: N5552.0W00425.9 - 3rd July 2005 at 22:23
The Finnair 757’s have 227 seats. MTOW of 115T. Compared with the RR 757’s the PW ones have a higher MZFW and MLAW.
By: wysiwyg - 3rd July 2005 at 22:19
Tail winds on the return effectively reduce the ground distance. Also, is that range specified with a full payload? I very much doubt that the aircraft will have more than 180 seats on board rather than the usual 235ish.
By: LBARULES - 3rd July 2005 at 21:59
Well I dont know, I do know that one way last year it went via Gander.
It must be possible, they did it all last summer!
By: MyTravel84 - 3rd July 2005 at 21:55
more accurate url http://www.indo.com/cgi-bin/dist/
Looked on the excel site for the 752’s range also
By: MyTravel84 - 3rd July 2005 at 21:53
My mistake its 3664 – still 164 more that the range though!!
Distance between Manchester, England, United Kingdom and Sanford, Florida, United States, as the crow flies:
4217 miles (6786 km) (3664 nautical miles)
Initial heading from Manchester to Sanford:
west (280.1 degrees)
Initial heading from Sanford to Manchester:
northeast (42.0 degrees)
Feel free to check http://www.indo.com
By: LBARULES - 3rd July 2005 at 21:43
Well they did it last year from MAN,LGW,NCL,BFS so it must be you who has your facts wrong!
By: Flex 35 - 27th May 2005 at 23:10
What an interesting livery! 😉
Hopefully the management are thinking about having a new image.
Flex 35
By: Humberside - 27th May 2005 at 22:43
Sorry, I prefer their old livery
By: Dazza - 27th May 2005 at 22:36
Saw this machine at EMA this evening, very plain looking, but then again anything is an improvement on what their A300s used to wear! 🙂
-Dazza
By: green320 - 10th May 2004 at 16:25
The DC 10 isn’t coming. The A300s are leaving at the end of the summer.
By: LBARULES - 10th May 2004 at 16:08
Hmmm you might be right, but lets see eh. If the flights are selling well then they won’t.
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