Air Wales

Its not Air Wales its Brussles!

Sabena and Sobelair went bust, Virgin Express or VEX or whatever they call themselves now are having to diversify quite a bit to stay afloat, RYR and their STN-CRL service debacle, and not many airlines are wanting to come into Zaventem, with SN Brussels providing the minimal level of connectionstp BRU as possible, largely with 146s.
Considering the amount of money that the EU through away I would have though some of that would have gone on expensive plane tickets.:rolleyes:

Its become apparent to me over the last while that Brussels to anywhere doesnt work.Brussles doesnt seem to have the passengers to hold onto any routes really does it.Being so close to The Netherlands and France doesnt help either and the Eurotunnel is also a sworn enemy of Brussles national airport.

Current Routes

Swansea to

Amsterdam
Dublin
London City

Cork to

Cardiff
Plymouth

Dublin to

Cardiff
Cork
Plymouth
Swansea

Cardiff to

Cork
Dublin
London City
Newcastle
Plymouth

Plymouth to

Cardiff
Cork
Dublin
London City (Change at Cardiff for connecting flight)
Newcastle

London City to

Cardiff
Plymouth (Change at Cardiff for connecting flight)
Swansea

Newcastle to

Cardiff
Plymouth

Amsterdam to

Swansea

To me they seem to be introducing too many new routes at the same time and I hardly ever see any advertisment for them. The only route I have seen advertised is the Swansea to London City.

They have dropped 2 routes off the top of my head.

Liverpool
Brussels and they dropped another didnt they

Well i’m sure they’ll start new routes in the future, i hope so anyway, for my national Airline!

what are they going to do with thier ATR 42’s hanging around???? if they have no where to fly to then should they be returned to thier lessors(if they are leased)

It looks like were talking about a total cancellation here and not going to a daily flight. Then the results will be very bad.

Huh? were they flying to Brussels? Since when? Why do they decide so rapidly? Well, It doesn’t surprise me without any advertisement in Belgium! These kind of destinations need advertisement. A link to the Wales was before very difficult, and if nobody knows about it, they shouldnt be surprised about the result.

Pity, they’ll use the aircraft i’m sure on new routes, and they have another coming in the next few weeks ATR42 G-CDFF

He He, I think they lacked a bit of research.

Whilst this has only been running for about 2 weeks, 2 passengers a flight isn’t really sustainable 🙁

Three times a day I think.

This route reminds me of the Calgary- Edmonton route, its about 20 minutes less of a flight, but significantly cheaper. A 50 pound flight is about 80-85 dollars Canadian. A flight between Edmonton and Calgary is $30 or about 15-20 pounds. This is using a much larger aircraft though as it is a high frequency route. This could be why the 12 passenger is so expensive. How often is the route flown?

most of these flights are for buisness passengers where time is of the essence, not just for me and you. The company gains more out of having you travelling for 2 hours (incl check-in etc) between Cardiff and London city than have you sat on a train for 4 hours, in some cases such as a crew positioning for an airline ad-hoc charter this can be many thousends of pounds gain

It depends I suppose, certainly an expensive flight will justify a service where there is not as higher demand as I know is the case for many services into LCY. I pressume that if the flight is for the business community then firstly they will be willing to pay that ammount to reach the city so maybe that is where the success lies. Anyway the flight seems late in the evening, possibly earlier are more fruitful?

Those PAX numbers certainly are disappointing.:(

£50 does seem an awful lot for a one way flight between Swansea/Cardiff and London.

Although with the weather, the trains are not quite so reliable, they are considerably cheaper. I would only consider flying such a short distance if time was of the essence.

Interesting, do you think the flights will last? 12 passengers doesn’t seem a lot though I suppose the high prices justify the route.