Airbus crash in Honduras.

Steve, do pay more attention :p
I’ve posted that!

Go sit in a corner with a dunce hat.

I know you’ve posted it..i was just adding my commentary to it

Steve, do pay more attention :p
I’ve posted that!

Go sit in a corner with a dunce hat.

It’s got more twists and turns than an Alfred Hitchcock movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAxAso8xSo0

Steve thats the video that was linked to in the post immediately preceeding yours.
Apparently that is a normal landing. And it is not a video of the accident.

Heres another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwQr-Z2Fgcs

And heres one I find stunning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ThWzU5-BwE

Now, I know the 757 was designed for this kind of performance. But I have to wonder if the A320, although mostly capable is approaching its limits.

More Toncontin Ops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1SiIXLO-KA

Cockpit view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAxAso8xSo0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRdOBEvlA8
He looks to be coming in way too fast

A-320 TACA Flt 390 Accident in Toncontin, Honduras

A-320 Folks:

We regret to inform you that LAAHS.com (Latin American Aviation Historical Society) has decided to supress/restrict any more comments on this subject on its forum.

We strongly think as we commented sometime ago that we believe in freedom to inform, to express, to investigate, to debate, to find out the truth in aviation matters… specially an accident such as this. We greatly regret that because some obscure reason freedom of expresion is denied to all its members to include the threat of erase any new comments.

However, the show must go on and we promise to keep you inform on the whereabouts of the findings of this investigation. We invite you to joint us and feel free to express, share your expertise with us and help us to poss solve this case with an open mind. As with any other investigation, we seek not to point fingers at anyone in particular or to a company that has been flying in Central America for decades with all kind of prop & jet planes. Like colleague Keltic mentions under extreme circumstances & conditions since 1940s. We’ll let that issue to be handled by the courts & lawyers in the USA.

We hope that an accident like this never repeats again in our countries or any other country that flies the A-320.

Plz write us and welcome to join us again at —–>

htttp://www.catrachowings.com

http://www.catrachowings.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=903

We’ll post the forum link soon.

We owed to the aviation pioneers of the 40s, NewZealender Mr. Lowell Yerex & Company at least a fair chance to expose their case. While many other Central American aviation companies are out of business TACA stll flies the American Continent. We kind of understand the friction with its competition.

At issue here, after one week of speculations & ongoing investigations, is a question for you the A-320 pilots & technicians:

Can an A-320 be stopped in about 4,500 ft of usable wet rwy with tail winds fm 190 at 10 kts, 124 pax & about 30 min of petro remaining??

In the link that we exhibit courtesy of UTube c. 2007 via RS Amur. It shows a normal TACA A-320 landing on a nice day, with practically unlimited visibility and a dry Rwy 02. See for yourselves and lets hear your comments. Tks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRdOBEvlA8

The pilot did not survive but the copilot did i think his condition is very bad.

Saludos.

Are you joking? Look at it. Its embedded into the side of a hill. Everything below the windows is crushed in which means all the flight consoles etc would have ended up where the pilots sit and i think alot of us know its not as easy to get out of those seats as it looks, especially in an emergency.

I imagine the pilots were crushed to death by the consoles etc. RIP.

You’re probably right Andrew..but it looks survivable to me

Looking at that picture makes you wonder how the flight crew perished..the cockpit looks fairly intact!

Are you joking? Look at it. Its embedded into the side of a hill. Everything below the windows is crushed in which means all the flight consoles etc would have ended up where the pilots sit and i think alot of us know its not as easy to get out of those seats as it looks, especially in an emergency.

I imagine the pilots were crushed to death by the consoles etc. RIP.

Looking at that picture makes you wonder how the flight crew perished..the cockpit looks fairly intact!

If I tell you what they do over here Steve…….:D:D

I don´t want to mention clickair standards. Never fly on them. Anyway, I hope they will be swallowed by Vueling quite soon.

Any one. Tegucigalpa Airport is a bit like a lottery.

TACA is still one of the safest airlines in the world. The problem is when you operate under extreme circunstances as in Central America, one has bigger changes of getting “the price”.

We have to remind the poor safety of the airport as many other in the region surounded by mountains, with a really short runway, and deficient drainnage system.

The plane attempted to land previously twice, and the weather was not nice at the moment. This roughly is taken from one El Salvador newspaper.

I am flying next friday 🙁 FR to STN…………..keep on watching the weather like mad all the time. 🙂

They made a couple of attempts at landing in inclement weather conditions..so why did they not divert to an alternate..it seems to be the norm over there to land at all costs..not the first for this airline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADqf0N07Vh0

In Spain we could add La Coruña LCG as scarry as well. Surounded by houses and hills, short runway (1900 m) with a ravine at both sides, and with low visibility. It has frecuent crossed winds.

Although it´s just 50 minutes drive I prefer the main one in the area SCQ-Santiago, which is just ten minutes away 🙂 .

This airport has been ranked as one of the Top 10 Scariest Airports in the World…

The Top 10 list link:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.travelandleisure.com/images/slideshows/toncontin-airport-200804-ss.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2001276/posts&h=320&w=260&sz=152&hl=en&start=199&um=1&tbnid=nixQfVxYCgOZCM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTEGUCIGALPA,%2BHonduras%2B%26start%3D180%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

Who remembers Kai Tak? Took off from there into the tail-end of a typhoon in 1995. Now that really was scary.

Among smaller strips, Courchevel has always impressed me. It’s a bit of a shock skiing around it when they’re landing or taking off. Ski-equipped planes when the snow gets thick (I’ve never seen the tarmac, only snow). And yes, it really is as steep as it looks in this video.

Make or break

This airport has been ranked as one of the Top 10 Scariest Airports in the World…

The Top 10 list link:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.travelandleisure.com/images/slideshows/toncontin-airport-200804-ss.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2001276/posts&h=320&w=260&sz=152&hl=en&start=199&um=1&tbnid=nixQfVxYCgOZCM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTEGUCIGALPA,%2BHonduras%2B%26start%3D180%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

Just seen footage of the crash a/c and rescue attempts on french Euronews ( not BBC or Sky yet) and am amazed at the low number of fatalities, sad as always, but remarkable relief for everyone else

TACA is still one of the safest airlines in the world. The problem is when you operate under extreme circunstances as in Central America, one has bigger changes of getting “the price”.

We have to remind the poor safety of the airport as many other in the region surounded by mountains, with a really short runway, and deficient drainnage system.

The plane attempted to land previously twice, and the weather was not nice at the moment. This roughly is taken from one El Salvador newspaper.

I am flying next friday 🙁 FR to STN…………..keep on watching the weather like mad all the time. 🙂

This airline is beginning to get a very poor safety reputation

The link is to the live broadcast…useless now, some apartment block fire in Texas. May as well remove the link.

Thx. Link removed, photo here.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/05/30/honduras.crash.ap/index.html