Aircraft Cockpit Sections/Instrument Panel Projects

£1000 is cheap for this item. I feel that we should go for it…pure and simple.
DaveT you have my email I think, I will pm it to you anyway.

I could put it in more money, suggest that we send emails addresses to me or DaveT as he is closer and get this moving. I would suggest no more than 6 in the group with each accepting that if they wish to get rid of their share, it is offered to the others.
Roll Up Roll Up your chance to actually save something worthy!

Cees – I went into the yard a couple of years ago and was shown it. The owner of the yard is professional – the kind of bartering he understands is that you turn up with £1000 and in return you get a Shackleton nose! If he didn’t believe he would get that eventually I can guarantee it would have been smeltered years ago!

1 K being the asking price, how about some bartering. Apart from that what would be the scrap value (it’s not much to look at from a general non-enthusiast point of view) 250 pounds, less?

Cees

Yes I will pledge £200 towards the purchase of this as part of … whatever as long as it is preserved. If there isn’t enough interest for a group ownership with equal shares, I will consider unequal shares or an outright purchase. Not too sure what the total weight of the nose will be but would guess stripped out it would be about 1 1/2 tons max. This would therefore fit onto a good four wheel car trailer…like mine. And I can tow it with my Disco. Let’s here it people. Which way shall we go with this?

UPDATE:
Over to you guys now….

Camlobe, OllieHolmes, LankyTim, Richard W etc, etc…. i can do no more except pledge my contribution and drive the truck for you. 😀

After all, if the Shackleton association can do it……..

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I would love to put some money in but ive had other things spring up that were not expected that money had to be spent on.

Go for it guys wouldnt be hard to extend it a little bit longer…

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It would be nice if someone (or a consortium of us ?) managed to at least prize it from neanderthal man, if only to sheet it over in a field for a rainy day.

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Dave T – great idea!! Now we can see if anyone will put their money where their mouth is!!….I will pledge at least £200 if we can get a quorum…possibly may have somewhere to put it if it ever visited A&AEE

Dave T, thanks for that. Much appreciated. Did some hours in this fine old girl. Well, anyone else out there up for Dave T’s suggestion? Gets my vote. You never know, maybe my engineers panel might find a new home.

Hi guys. Sorry, I was looking at page 1 and got all excited and sent my previous post. that will teach me to read the rest first. Richard W, sorry to step on your toes. You sound very serious about the Shack, so I shall sit back. If it looks like you won’t be able to get it, let me know and I will try and have a shot. After all, one way or the other, we as private individuals have to try and preserve some of our nations aviation heritage. (My thoughts, you don’t have to share them).

Dave T, do you know if the Shack nose section is from WL756? And just to be awkward, do you know where they have cut? Could you tell me where it is?
Anybody would think I have a soft spot for such things.

Canberra T.22 project.

I have re-skinned the nose and it is just about ready to go back on. Not looking forward to re-building the back end. 🙁

Richard.
Any news???

How heavy would the shack nose section be?

Not yet. Christmas and new year cleaned out my bank balance rather more efficiently than expected.

Cheers for the address.

Richard

It´s only a symbolic panel. The instrumentation makes no sense and is not a real aircraft related.
The remote compass (Fuehrertochterkompass) and the U/C indicator (Vierlampengeraet) would be the only instruments of higher value, if they are not fakes (need detailed pictures and also opening).
There are these compasses around with original outside parts and replica inner parts. And also complete fakes (see picture). They all come from the Czechs, who sell them as originals 🙁
I´d give EUR 1500,- for the panel. That would be the value of the parts together.
Herbert

Instrument panel

Got bored & started browsing eBay & saw this Original-Flugzeugcockpit-1-1-eines-Fokker-Wulf-Jaegers I have absolutely no connection with the item, just though it may be of interest / worthy of comment on here?

Dave,
You have some good points there… It would be wonderful to save a complete aircraft but unless you have the finances and location, it is just not feasable. If someone can take the cockpit on then at least part of the aircraft will be preserved for future generations. This rings true for such popular types as hunter,canberra etc. For more rarer types such as the swift, then the aircraft should be kept as whole unless a complete basket case.

Dave – Certainly in numerous years of being involved in the Cockpitfest event at Newark …… 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

David,
I agree that the preservation of cockpits feeds well into other areas of preservation, especially the development of restoration skills. As this is so I would be intrigued to know how widespread the private preservation of cockpits is in other countries. Is this primarily a British phenomenon? I’m aware that the military in many countries retain cockpits for Public Relations, training or museum use on occasions and have seen examples in Europe and further afield but what about privately owned cockpits / collections?

Again, fair points. Thanks David.

Dave – I understand your sentiments regarding saving complete aircraft . However the simple reality is that yards like Hanningfield Metals who scrapped 45 Canberra’s could have offered some to preservation groups but how many could we preserve and how many do we need to? Interestingly a friend of mine recently acquired the cockpit of a Canberra T.19 post scrapping. As much we would have liked to save it – the aircraft was exfoliating and what in reality is the point of saving something which will just continue to powder away before your eyes? The cockpit is manageable and can be put inside – as a complete aircraft it wasn’t ever going to be housed.
The stark reality of this is that there isn’t pots of money in the preservation game and what there is gets more and more demands on it each year. If we end up with new generations of enthusiasts cutting their teeth on cockpits at home – well that can only be for the better. Certainly in numerous years of being involved in the Cockpitfest event at Newark – the standard of work carried out by cockpit collectors has improved by leaps and bounds. All this filters through the system and gets to help
the complete aircraft.
Much as I like to save complete aircraft – there are many cases where it simply isn’t possible – 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing.