January 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Does anyone know if the 104 at Lasham is the one that was at Binbrook for awhile?
By: RPSmith - 2nd February 2008 at 15:11
Air Navigation & Trading used to fly Rapides on the “Tower treadmill” at Blackpool – including G-AJBJ reportedly still at Chirk.
Was it, perhaps, their intention to use the Drover for a similar purpose?
Roger Smith.
By: Nashio966 - 2nd February 2008 at 12:26
aah touché monsieur :p
By: Newforest - 2nd February 2008 at 12:10
were the CAA nicer back then?
Or maybe not so nice as it didn’t fly!:D
By: Nashio966 - 2nd February 2008 at 09:56
were the CAA nicer back then?
By: pagen01 - 2nd February 2008 at 09:16
Strange to go to all that expence and bother to import it, but never fly it over here.
By: keithnewsome - 1st February 2008 at 22:12
pagen01, In answer to your question, “how did it get here” dh drover c/n 5014 VH-EAS or VH-EAZ, was “shipped” to the UK.
The registration on it, VH-FDT, is false, it belongs to c/n 5011.
“Shipped” to UK 1959.
15-12-59 registered G-APXX.
No recorded flights in UK.
1960 to Air Navigation & Trading Co.
1967 to Southend Museum.
1983 to Doug Arnold.
1987 to Blackbushe.
1996 to Lasham SWWAPS.
2008 looking a bit sad ?
2009 Who knows ?
Keith.
By: Feather #3 - 1st February 2008 at 11:19
Side window/s
The side windows are “blown” so you do have some chance to see behind, BUT there’s no sense in blowing the r/h one as when strapped in, you have a whole 40% of the cockpit width between you and the window. Vis is only from about 7 o’clock around to 3 o’clock. I carry an observer at airshows for this reason.
G’day 😉
By: Newforest - 1st February 2008 at 09:15
Im not sure what your’e going on about with the windows, do you mean the extra pane in the port cockpit windows? If so would’t this be a DV window for the pilot?
Look at this photo of the Royal Flying Doctor plane. Now if you are a passenger and not on a stretcher, you have a perfect view from the windows. Now imagine yourself as a pilot having to look sideways or behind you from that window, unless the seat is set very high, it looks like a problem area with a guaranteed crick in the neck.
By: Arabella-Cox - 1st February 2008 at 09:13
Good luck with it guys…………if I was bit closer I would offer to join you, if you would have me, that is!!!
There is a comprehensive article in Autumn 2006 Air Britain Digest (whoops Air World, old habits die hard !!!) Plenty of photos, as far as I an see they all have the same window configuration. I see several of them them did make it on to other registers but they all remained relatively “local” i.e. Fiji, New Zealand etc………
Planemike
By: pagen01 - 1st February 2008 at 09:07
Windows
Im not sure what your’e going on about with the windows, do you mean the extra pane in the port cockpit windows? If so would’t this be a DV window for the pilot?
BTW does anyone know how it ended up inthe UK? Must have been hell of a journey getting it here!
By: Bruce - 1st February 2008 at 08:42
Good!
I am in Lingwood – about 20 minutes from the City.
I am tied up most of Feb, but suggest we look at some time in March – or once the museum opens.
Bruce
By: keithnewsome - 1st February 2008 at 07:29
Bruce, Absolutely, positively yes to that , would love to have a look at the old girl, and I live in ” A Fine City” Keith.
By: Bruce - 1st February 2008 at 07:06
Yes, I know, but I guess if you dont try, you cant complain!
Incidentally, if there are any volunteers from the museum at Lasham reading this, we would greatly value your comments. By PM if you dont want to post on here?
Kind regards
Bruce
By: PembrokeC1 - 1st February 2008 at 06:46
Best of luck with the Drover. Been trying to get the Prince out of here for a while. Regret they are less than receptive to idea of moving anything on.
By: Bruce - 1st February 2008 at 06:40
Bruce, I will offer you all of my (physical) support, and time, in this should something come of it ! Keith.
OK, first thing, before I make further enquiries (thanks David and Nigel), we ought to go and see it.
Keith, as you are in the same general area as me, do you fancy a trip down there once the weather eases off. Looks like just over 3 hrs from Norwich.
I can pick you up on the way (as long as you arent in Cromer!)
Bruce
By: David Burke - 31st January 2008 at 23:04
Keith – I was looking at the pictures of VH – ADN where there is a definate difference between port and stbd sides.
By: Feather #3 - 31st January 2008 at 22:41
Drover Windows
As to Drover windows, they’re all the same from Mk1-3.
The problem is getting the nose streamlined from the centre engine back to a two-seat plus aisle cabin width and it all happens pretty quickly past the front cockpit window.
As to the DH104 and derivative, I would put it to you that the Drover is in fact derived from the DH97 [although we Aussies claim it as an indigenous product!] and the Dove came later.
If I ever sort out web hosting, I’ll post some up to date photos, but for a quick look, try this; http://www.hars.org.au/fleet/drover/index.html
G’day 😉
PS Err, just had a plate of humble pie! Dunno where on earth that l/h window came from on the Lasham a/c; well spotted!
By: keithnewsome - 31st January 2008 at 22:30
David, have just done the search, as mentioned in your thread, can’t find it ? come on tell me ? if it’s VH-EAS, it’s the same aircraft ! please don’t tease me.
Bruce, I will offer you all of my (physical) support, and time, in this should something come of it ! Keith.
By: BSG-75 - 31st January 2008 at 22:18
OK, OK – can someone find me some contact details for these guys, and I will see if there is any chance of getting the Drover.
Bruce
try : http://www.britishaircraft.co.uk/museumpage.php?ID=28
names and addresses, no phone number though. Good luck.
By: David Burke - 31st January 2008 at 21:59
Keith – I looked on Airliners.Net and found the difference you noticed on another Drover picture.