June 24, 2004 at 10:28 am
A couple of queries about aircraft registrations. One, historically, how did the international system start? Who began it? And how did they work out the country codes?
I mean G for Britain, ZK for New Zealand, VH for Australia, N for America, etc. How did the lettering system develop? Did they simply pick a letter out of the air, or do they actually stand for something?
What is the letter for your country (just to see a bit of international variety). Mine is ZK.
The other thing, can an aircraft be registered in two places at once? For example if a warbirds owner lived in one country for six months of the year (say NZ) and another the other six months (say the UK), and he took his warbird with him for each country’s airshow season – does he have to continually re-register it, or can it have dual citizenship? Or would it simply fly under another country’s codes (like they do with shipping?)
By: Swiss Mustangs - 24th June 2004 at 11:30
Roger, wilco !
Martin
oh – and as a teaser…
By: Yak 11 Fan - 24th June 2004 at 11:28
Glad you still have the Mustang over there, any chance of posting some pics after the weekend?
Thanks
By: Swiss Mustangs - 24th June 2004 at 11:24
Is Double Trouble Two still in Switzerland? There was a rumour recently about it having found new owners within Europe, any truth in this?
She was hibernating at Salzburg (Austria) from October until February and had the Propeller sent to the U.S. for overhaul. She is still owned by Max Vogelsang and I will see her coming Sunday at Berne (75 years of Berne Airport airshow).
The rumours started, when last autumn she was placed among the ‘Red Bull’ collection at Salzburg in Hangar 7 and stayed there for quite some time. Some ‘know-it-all’ then announced that as per technicians she had been acquired by the RB-owner as addition to his collection (B-25, F4U, T-28, among others).
I am happy that DT2 is still here.
Cheers
Martin
By: Papa Lima - 24th June 2004 at 11:06
I think that international civil markings were agreed at the International Air Navigation Convention in Paris, to come into force on 22 July 1919. An interesting overview of British and Commonwealth markings is contained in the introductory chapters of the British Civil Aircraft Registers series of books.
By: Yak 11 Fan - 24th June 2004 at 10:59
Is Double Trouble Two still in Switzerland? There was a rumour recently about it having found new owners within Europe, any truth in this?
By: Yak 11 Fan - 24th June 2004 at 10:58
I was talking about UK-US. This only applies to aircraft over a certain weight category as well, for example the are a number of Stearman operating perfectly happily on the American register in the UK.
By: Swiss Mustangs - 24th June 2004 at 10:52
hmm…
so why is N51EA “Double Trouble Two”, based in Switzerland since 1990, still flying as such and doesn’t carry HB-regs ?
Because the holding company is domiciliated in the U.S.
Or are you talking about the UK-US relation in specific ?
Martin
By: Yak 11 Fan - 24th June 2004 at 10:45
I also think some of the Fighter Collection warbirds flew for a number of years on US registrations, if I’m not mistaken, and have only recently (ie, within the last couple of years) taken up UK regs.
A lot of Warbirds flew in thr American register for a number of years, however the CAA closed this loophole a while ago. From memory I think you now have 3 months in which to re register a warbird in the UK.
By: DazDaMan - 24th June 2004 at 10:42
Having a look at the latest PFA mag, there is one aircraft (can’t remember which) that is based in Ireland but German-registered.
I also think some of the Fighter Collection warbirds flew for a number of years on US registrations, if I’m not mistaken, and have only recently (ie, within the last couple of years) taken up UK regs.