December 27, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Looks like the scrapyard at Faygate with the harriers and C130 noses is being cleared to turn it into a residential area.
By: russteenuts - 8th June 2010 at 18:37
Scrapyard at Faygate
The yard has probably gone now as planning permission was granted for a 5 bedroom house late 2008. I remember seeing something in the press last year about one of the Harriers being trucked out of the site. Presumably that was the start. Pity.
By: hindenburg - 30th December 2008 at 13:26
Asking Landowners reaped benefits
As far as visiting airfields was concerned I`ve always asked the landowners permission since being escorted by the police from Polebrook in my teens,on that occasion they thought we were staking the hangers out for an illegal rave !!.After finally persuading them we were aviation buffs they gave us a lift to the next airfield..fair play to them.On visiting Deenethorpe I went to ask permission from the Land owner expecting to be declined,He not only took me round the site but presented me with some excellent bit of B17 `Zenobia` which crashed on take off in 1944 taking out alot of buildings (I`ve never found anything on this ).He was impressed a young lad had any interest at all !! I used to explore RAF Langtoft as an eight year old,really great buzz but looking back…dangerous.
By: Arabella-Cox - 30th December 2008 at 12:53
i think the link davef68 posted shows how trepass in defined very well.
I think you are just confusing the matter grahamsimons, to mention entering someones home and stealing there stuff is very different to entering the buildings of an abandoned airfield or coastal defence bunker long distances from anyones property. I doubt anyone here agrees with theft of any kind, and any true ‘urban explorers’ would agree. Most former military buildings are left to decay, used as a dumping ground by farmers who can’t use them for commercial purposes or sell them for housing.
As far as some sites being of a special interest, an internet community i am part of actively promotes protection of endangered species, for example a few weeks ago when looking in some old tunnels we found bats, a protected species, we immediatly left, secured the entrance to humans and informed others that this place was now out of bounds. I am sure if that land was owned by a farmer(of the type that reside in this particular spot) and they found out about bats, they would do whatever they could to avoid having any restrictions put on the land and its uses.
You obviously have it in for people that want to experiance there past, you chose to ignore my comments about how the quiet majority wish to do this and prefer to sensationailise the negatives. This kind of slander only makes access less possible to those that care, due to fear. Some people like reading about these places online, or looking in books, others prefer to experiance them for thereselves consideratly. You are just creating a divide.
By: DaveF68 - 30th December 2008 at 12:28
Interesting sumary of the law here:
http://www.derelictplaces.co.uk/index.php?do=trespass
I would argue with ‘severe’, unless aggrevated, but not with the sentiment!
By: GrahamSimons - 30th December 2008 at 08:04
This is the same for many former airfields, army barracks, ROC posts, bunkers etc that have laid empty for many years…
It does not matter if it’s Faygate, an airfield or a bunker going on land without that land-owner or land managers permission is trespass.
We’ve published over 80 different editions in our AirField Focus series now and in EVERY edition we print the following message
Before we attempt to gain access for the ‘Then and Now’ photographs we use we always make contact with the landowner to get their permission. Very often ‘abandoned airfields’ have other, not so obvious uses – we know of one that is a butterfly reserve and many that are game reserves of one kind or another. At least one is regarded as a Site of Special Scientific Interest.
We’ve been refused access on two occasions – both as it turned out through the previous idiotic behavior of the so-called ‘urban explorers’ who seem to think they have the god-given right to go where the hell they like. This type of reaction by the land-owner/managers to trespass is totally understandable – I have to wonder how these ‘urban explorers’ would feel if I turned up in their back garden and started rummaging through their sheds, garages and patios helping myself to stuff!
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th December 2008 at 23:45
no NATO tow arms left nige., what is left, used for moving air frames around. As for buying bits go, it’s difficult, thanks to those that see fit to trespass onto the property,
whom then move onto trespassing GAM’s property on the same days!Having spoken to the owner on ocassions (we know him well at GAM) the behaviour of the few (trespassing and robbing bits) has not gone unnoticed.
Sorry to rant, but contact Aerospace logistics if you want bits. please don’t be tempted to act like the idiots on urban whatsit forum ,and climb over fences to have a quick look!!. It causes us nothing but security problems at GAM because of the close proximity.
These may seem weird to say, but i just want to point out that not all ‘urban explorer’s’ are bad, unfortunatly like most things in life the bad ones get the publicity. I myself could be classed as an ‘urban explorer’, personally i regard myself as someone as an interest in history. I do not agree with any kind of law breaking, whether it be trespassing, breaking and entering or theft of memorabelia. I am just a law abiding person who likes to look round places before they are turned into luxuary flats-only when abandoned, never, like this place, when still in use. I am a member of several forums, and admit 28days later has a rep for breaking these ‘set rules’, but must point out that the interest in these items on here only came about because of the pictures taken. This is the same for many former airfields, army barracks, ROC posts, bunkers etc that have laid empty for many years until the bulldozers move in, we should be thankful for the effort they make. BUT only in cases where laws aren’t broken. Yeah some are vandals, theives and general scoundrals, but that isn’t the case of everyone, so try not to generalise to much.
I have no idea whether that stuff is worth saving or not, but i think most of us here would prefer it not to be scrapped
By: avion ancien - 29th December 2008 at 22:35
Has anything been written on the subject of Nº 49 M.U. Faygate? If so could those in the know please diect me to the relevant publications, please!
By: mjr - 29th December 2008 at 21:52
no NATO tow arms left nige., what is left, used for moving air frames around. As for buying bits go, it’s difficult, thanks to those that see fit to trespass onto the property,
whom then move onto trespassing GAM’s property on the same days!
Having spoken to the owner on ocassions (we know him well at GAM) the behaviour of the few (trespassing and robbing bits) has not gone unnoticed.
Sorry to rant, but contact Aerospace logistics if you want bits. please don’t be tempted to act like the idiots on urban whatsit forum ,and climb over fences to have a quick look!!. It causes us nothing but security problems at GAM because of the close proximity.
By: JetBlast - 29th December 2008 at 17:11
Does anyone know if they still have any NATO Tow Arms there? I remember seeing pictures of the Harrier’s and you could see the tow arms in front of them.
By: atr42 - 29th December 2008 at 16:06
Don’t worry it isn’t going anywhere yet. Would you believe I’ve lived in the area for years and didn’t know it existed!
Anyway just looked up the planning application on our local councils website.
Seems they recommended refusal as they didn’t think the owners had made enough efforts to find an alternative commercial use for the site and that residential wasn’t sustainable for a variety of reasons.
In the end the owners withdrew the application at the end of the November however they were to have a meeting with the council about the site in early December. That’s all there is online at the moment.
Might be worth contacting the owners or their agent now if you want a few bits.
By: Big Barf - 29th December 2008 at 13:18
Scrapyard
This is the Aerospace Logistics Site, which can be found in N/W Charlwood. Check google maps and its there.
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th December 2008 at 09:07
Paul,
XX140 is without it’s cockpit.
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By: ozjag - 28th December 2008 at 23:22
I notice there is at least one Jaguar in there as well – XX140, if anybody intends to give them a visit could you please PM me first as there may be the odd piece of use to me.
Thanks Paul
By: Guzzineil - 28th December 2008 at 18:15
I believe that it’s just to the north of Faygate railway station. Where was 49 MU? Wasn’t there a thread about the MU at Faygate some while ago?
49 MU was northside of the railway tracks… the compound in question here is a couple of miles further on..
By: avion ancien - 28th December 2008 at 17:42
I expect they said the same thing in the 40’s and 50’s, and look at how we now drool over pictures of scrapyards from those days!
That’s the benefit of hindsight. If everything in those scrapyards, photographed in the 1940s and 1950s, had been retained, today it would be so commonplace that no-one would drool over it. The appeal is the product of rarity spiced with a dash of nostalgia!
By: bloodnok - 28th December 2008 at 17:03
None of it looks that exciting!
I expect they said the same thing in the 40’s and 50’s, and look at how we now drool over pictures of scrapyards from those days!
By: bloodnok - 28th December 2008 at 17:02
I am surprised the nose cones are not still required??
They are quite likely to be beyond repair, I saw quite a few scrapped when I worked at Marshalls as damage was out of limits.
By: Peter - 28th December 2008 at 14:26
I am surprised the nose cones are not still required??
By: Fouga23 - 28th December 2008 at 10:48
Some nice stuff remaining. Wouldn’t mind having a C-130 nosecone or a Harrier engine intake. 🙂
By: avion ancien - 27th December 2008 at 21:28
Just curious, but where is this site in relation to 49 MU at RAF Faygate that dealt with most (if not all) WW2 crash wreckages from British & German aircraft in WW2 from SE England?
I believe that it’s just to the north of Faygate railway station. Where was 49 MU? Wasn’t there a thread about the MU at Faygate some while ago?