February 1, 2011 at 11:56 am
Hi
Does anyone recall seeing a programme on BBC1 a few years ago, I think it was called Inside Out. On one of the series they interviewed a guy who was diving on various unknown wrecksites in the Wash, & recording what he found. In part of the programme there was some video footage of an aircraft fuselage lying fairly intact on the seabed, it looked tall & thin “bit like a Hampden etc”, it appeared to still have quite a lot of paint left on it, & from memory you could see either a roundel or code letters on it.
Anyone remember seeing this programme & recognised what type of aircraft it was ?.
Bob. T
By: John Aeroclub - 6th February 2011 at 11:13
I believe that the Harbour Masters launch at Kings Lynn on the Wash is called Torbeau.
John
By: Bruce McT - 6th February 2011 at 00:17
Aircraft wreck in the Wash,What type
Reading this thread triggered my memory. Page 366 Bomber Command Losses, 1944,Chorley. 30 July,1944, 57Sqn Lancaster I LM284 DX-?. Crewed by a 55 Base test crew , presumed lost over The Wash.
By: Lincoln 7 - 4th February 2011 at 22:08
Don’t forget their are two firing/bombing ranges in the Wash, and I know for a fact two aircraft that have shot themselves down, due to the ordnance in the ground and when firing, the aircrafts ordnance would hit the buried ordnance and shoot the aircraft down.on the rebound.
I know for certain that there was a Beaufighter in the sea off Wainfleet range, my father in law had to bail out of the aircraft, along with the rest of the crew, but he never said what the fault was that made them have to bail out.
Could this be the missing aircraft that your on about?.
Also, I think I am right in saying the firing ranges were being used in WW1.
Lincoln. 7
By: hindenburg - 4th February 2011 at 18:48
Too right Cees!!! If Elliot hadn`t started….I`d be after Whitley stuff,got a soft spot for those too…and the Fairy Hendon…and Boulton Paul Overstrand.Now they would be a challenge…oops sorry..wandering from the thread abit.you can always hope though.
By: CeBro - 4th February 2011 at 18:39
in competion with the “other” bomber of course:D
hear hear Martin
Cees
By: hindenburg - 4th February 2011 at 18:36
I think it`s always liking the `underdog` or the ` ugly duckling` and the fact the rarity of the stuff makes it a real challenge…it used to be Lancs,but I got bored with that.
By: mike currill - 4th February 2011 at 18:33
Why?
By: hindenburg - 4th February 2011 at 18:30
I know Andy,I can`t help myself,I`m completely obsessed and consumed by Stirlings.
By: sopwith.7f1 - 4th February 2011 at 08:40
From memory I would have guessed that it was either a Beaufighter or Hampden, I was kind of keeping my fingers crossed that some one else remembered seeing the programme, & could tell me for certain what type it was. If it was indeed a Hampden, & given it’s apparent condition at the time, it’s recovery would go a long way to helping complete the one at East Kirby.
Bob. T
By: Radpoe Meteor - 3rd February 2011 at 12:56
Given the High number of Hampdens operated out of Lincs and your description, gives firm credibilty to it being one of this type.
Sid Finn’s books ” Lincolnshire Air War 1 & 2 ” lists many of the county’s crashes, so would at least give some idea how many came down in the Wash- I’ve loaned mine out to someone at work at the mo’ so can’t help for now.
Sorry I can’t be of further help.
Regards Rad.
By: sopwith.7f1 - 3rd February 2011 at 11:14
Is it possible that it was a clip of a wreck he had surveyed somewhere else?
Yes it is possible that the BBC used clips of wrecks from a different area “to make it more interesting”, though the blurb prior to the clips said something like here are some of the sites in the Wash that he has already surveyed. If they did use a clip from some where else, it definately wasn’t of the Beau in the sea off Malta, & as it didn’t have any coral growing on it, & the seabed looked pretty barren, that kind of rules out any of the PNG wrecks.
There are quite a few aircraft that are known to have ditched/crashed into the Wash, & no doubt others that went in unknown.
Bob. T
By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd February 2011 at 14:03
Stirling?
Ever hopeful, old chap?
By: Wyvernfan - 2nd February 2011 at 13:57
, it was one of several clips of various wreckage that he had already surveyed
Is it possible that it was a clip of a wreck he had surveyed somewhere else?
By: sopwith.7f1 - 2nd February 2011 at 12:45
Stirling “I wish”:(.
No it wasn’t a Stirling, it had a turret/copula in the same sort of location as those on the Hampden & Beaufort/fighter.
Might give the BBC a try though I am not sure if they will be able to help, I might also try a letter to one of the diving mags, to see if any of their readers can help.
Bob. T
By: 12jaguar - 2nd February 2011 at 12:22
Might be worth contacting the BBC, it should be in their archives.
By: sopwith.7f1 - 2nd February 2011 at 11:44
Hi Alan
No I don’t think it was an 88, the fuselage as I remember it, was tall & thin like a Hampden or Beaufort etc, & there may well have been a roundel on it’s side, it was sitting upright with only a little bit of it beneath the sand, there was no real signs of the wings that I can remember, other than possibly an engine & its mounting. It was only a short video clip of the fuselage with no mention of what it was. The guy who was being interviewed didn’t mention it or any of the other wrecks “boats” that were also shown in the clips, it was one of several clips of various wreckage that he had already surveyed, the general jist of the conversation as I recall, was that there were a large number of unidentified wrecksites etc showing on the admiralty survey charts for the Wash etc, & he wanted to dive as many as he could, & where possible, record what they were.
I’m sure the programme was called Inside out, & it focused on events & items of interest in the local TV region, in other words the programme for the Eastern TV region were different from those of the North etc.
As for the JU 88, any ideas as to its condition ?.
Bob. T
By: hindenburg - 2nd February 2011 at 11:33
Stirling?
By: Alan Clark - 1st February 2011 at 22:05
Was it a Ju88, I know of one lying in fairly shallow water off the east coast.
By: sopwith.7f1 - 1st February 2011 at 21:56
Definitely wasn’t a Mossie, it was a metal fuselage, there might have been the remains of a radial engine nearby but I am not certain of this.
Bob. T
By: paulmcmillan - 1st February 2011 at 12:10
There was a Mosquito found in the Wash!