Airliners at Duxford.

748 production until 1984-5, then ATP replaced it.

1988 according to wiki though I seem to remember that was a couple of airframes that were produced a couple of years previous that only required finishing off.

Ahhh Wiki – the source of all that is dubious.

So the question remains: last UK-built 748?

For info, One-Eleven seems to end with c/n 272, YR-BCO, a non-ROMBAC Tarom machine.

Science Museum, Wroughton

This is a subject close to my heart. It would be wonderful to have a civil aircraft collection, under cover in the UK. But the
It’s a shame that there isn’t more money available to revamp the Science Museum site at Wroughton, that would be a great place to keep a British civil aircraft collection and perhaps one Canadian four engine airliner too!

It is time that the aircraft at Wroughton were extracted from the Large Objects Store. Their condition is deplorable. It is not the SM Wroughton staff’s fault : Wroughton has been starved of funds for decades and they cannot even keep up with deterioration in the state of the hangars. Public access is desperately restricted … ‘researcher access visits only’ duration of which is typically one hour.

The Connie hangar has a badly leaking roof and the exotic metallurgy of some of the exhibits is suffering terribly. The concrete roof of the adjacent hangar which houses the Trident, DC3 etc is spalling badly and lumps drop off – it is a hard hat area. The potential for damage to the exhibits is immediate.

I won’t even mention the dreadful condition of the aero engine collection, the cars and so on … There is talk currently of a new facility, but that’s been going on for ages.

It is neglect and a disgrace that a National Museum does nothing about it: the small staff of conservators are a wonderful band of people but it is a losing battle for them. I doubt that any of the much-garlanded Trustees have ever set foot inside those hangars … if they did, they would have to take action.
Rant over.
Nick

There is no pot of money to move airliners from Duxford -there is no proven track record of a U.K museum being able to pay for itself on the basis of public admission to see airliners alone and any museum that would contemplate even the idea is going realistically to need a Concorde . There are none of those available !

Whilst its great to speculate – the reality is that the only place it could happen is at Duxford – to combine the Science museum airframes from Wroughton that are moveable and build a new purpose built hangar.

1988 according to wiki though I seem to remember that was a couple of airframes that were produced a couple of years previous that only required finishing off.

U.S engines/APU, wings originally made in U.S, parts of empennage manufactured in Sweden. 748 is possibly last UK airframe/engine civil airliner. There’s a couple left at Southend which might just be the last active ones we have in UK/Europe.

Doesn’t the One-Eleven post-date the 748 in terms of end of production? (UK engine/airframe that is)

Last Hurn-built One-Eleven 1982? When was the final Dart 748 built?

Can we define ‘turned over’?

Moggy

G’Day Guys. As we can see by a new thread and the number of responses, people are interested. If a large plot of land, possibly being used by the USA at present, complete with hangars, runways and other infrastructure were turned over to a national airliner museum. Half way there comes to mind.:cool:

And large enough to bring stuff out of store!

Now THERE’s an idea!!;)

A national aviation museum, with a useable runway, warm buildings and local staff on hand? It sounds too good to be true. Move that silly allotment space from London and relocate it to the Hall would be an epic but GREAT idea!

Now THERE’s an idea!!;)

Just a thought, if the American aeroplanes could be moved to a new American Air Museum at the soon to be vacant Mildenhall that would free sufficient hangar space for the airliners.

I guess the Lufthansa ones are long gone? I recall them on the tarmac when I was in Berlin.

How about asking the owners of a certain bunch of overpaid, underemployed so called sportstsmen, from Manchester, to help look after the Ambassador After all the type features very heavily in that Club’s history ie. Munich.

BAe 146 fits the All British tag.

Regards
Mark

U.S engines/APU, wings originally made in U.S, parts of empennage manufactured in Sweden. 748 is possibly last UK airframe/engine civil airliner. There’s a couple left at Southend which might just be the last active ones we have in UK/Europe.

Wroughton Connie was shipped via Fleetwood docks and roaded to Wroughton.

I’d love to see the DAS and Science Museum Collections form the basis of a National Museum of Air Travel – reflecting the history of how the public has flown. Represent all aspects of air travel from Rapides through to Concordes. They have many of the right types already. A Carvair would be a nice addition…

That is a very lauderable aim but you would need big finincial backing from the likes of British Airways, and look what happened last time. Would love to see a Vickers Viking, Bristol 170, Rapide, Dragon, Comet, trident,Viscount, Carvair, Coni, DC-4,DC-3, Viscount etc in a museum.
We could even scour the country for a piece of a HP 0/400 build a new aircraft round it and declare it a 1919 London Paris original veteran! Or failing that get a lancaster and modify the nose and tail…..:dev2:

Wroughton Connie was shipped via Fleetwood docks and roaded to Wroughton.

I’d love to see the DAS and Science Museum Collections form the basis of a National Museum of Air Travel – reflecting the history of how the public has flown. Represent all aspects of air travel from Rapides through to Concordes. They have many of the right types already. A Carvair would be a nice addition…

The one in the Museum of Flight Seattle was roaded all the way from Toronto to New York State for restoration, and then on to Seattle. A journey of around 3,000 miles.

Probably the same way they got it from Ireland to Wroughton in the first place!

And I thought it had been flown in. Nice to know its doable.

Have you a link to any plans for that, I’d be interested to read more. It’s a great museum in every respect at Brooklands.

No link online, but it is talked about after the current plan to move and rebuild the ‘Wellington’ hangar.
mmitch.