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Airport codes

Does anyone know why airports have two codes?

IE. one three letter (IATA) and one four letter (ICAO) ?

I am certainly amused by the ICAO codes because they bear no resemblance to the location of the airport, whereas the 3 letter codes are logical (eg. MEL for Melbourne, or JER for Jersey).

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By: Duesseldwarf - 8th June 2004 at 22:46

EWR (Newark) and LEI (Almeria) – the letters appear in order – is it simply that combinations commencing Nxx and Axx were all taken? Any ideas? Also, does anyone know why the likes of Spanair use ambiguous three letter codes (JKK, previously the more logical SPP)?

Spanair’s scheduled designator is JK – I’ve no idea why they changed from SPP but I can only assume that JK and JKK appealed more to them?

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By: concordesst - 8th June 2004 at 17:55

St. Petersburg aka Leningrad, hence LED.

St Peterspurg was Leningrad, well they do say you learn something new everyday.

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By: Pablo - 8th June 2004 at 17:51

EWR (Newark) and LEI (Almeria) – the letters appear in order – is it simply that combinations commencing Nxx and Axx were all taken? Any ideas? Also, does anyone know why the likes of Spanair use ambiguous three letter codes (JKK, previously the more logical SPP)?

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By: Duesseldwarf - 8th June 2004 at 13:28

St.Petersburg why LED?.

St. Petersburg aka Leningrad, hence LED.

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By: Ren Frew - 8th June 2004 at 08:42

GLA-Glasgow
EDI- Edinburgh
PIK- Prestwick
ABZ- Aberdeen

Pretty straight forward for the main Scottish airports.

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By: SHAMROCK321 - 8th June 2004 at 08:39

ORD Chicago O Hare represents the old orchard that used to be there or something along those lines.So it doenst nescecerraly have to do with where it is.DXB=Dubai because DUB is already Dublin LOL.And LED I belive that St.Petersburg why LED?.And why all those weitred ones in Canada that no one can make head nor tail of.

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By: andrewm - 8th June 2004 at 00:17

Some airports 3 letter code is based on navigational equipment onsite i believe. Such as EGAA (BFS) is BFS due to the VOR BFS being onsite!

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By: Pablo - 7th June 2004 at 23:45

Am I right in thinking that Canada uses its ICAO system to derive its IATA codes? (CYYZ – YYZ, CYVR – YVR, CYMX – YMX etc)? The USA also seems to on occasions (KMCO – MCO, KORD – ORD)? Do any other countries?

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By: Duesseldwarf - 4th June 2004 at 22:04

I’ve always found XRY (Jerez, Spain) very peculiar, could this be a Roman one too?

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By: Duesseldwarf - 4th June 2004 at 22:03

I believe Málaga takes AGP from the Roman name for Málaga – however, I cannot remember what the Roman name is in full but it does have A, G and P in it in that order, if I remember that properly!

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By: stopthefighting - 4th June 2004 at 16:36

Sorry but i may sound dumb but wot Airport is LBA!

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By: Pembo330 - 4th June 2004 at 14:00

lol, well Middleton St George and MME both start with an M!

Thanks Preston. 🙂

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By: EGNM - 2nd June 2004 at 16:50

MME refers to the original RAF Middleton St George base apparently!

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By: T5 - 2nd June 2004 at 10:26

Perhaps the obvious codes for Teesside (e.g. TEE or TSD) have been taken by other airports.

TEE is Tbessa (?)
TSD is Tshipise (?)

And as for Malaga, it’s the same sort of problem. MAL is Mangole and MLG is Malang.

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By: greekdude1 - 18th May 2003 at 19:53

You’re referring the Northridge quake in 94, yes I did. No damage done to my parents place. Lot’s of damage in the Northridge/Ventura area. It shook us up pretty good, though. I’ve experience a few others of similar magnitude.

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By: Hand87_5 - 18th May 2003 at 14:32

Don’t worry , the odds are very low however 🙂

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By: Gaurav - 18th May 2003 at 13:40

Ive slept thorught two earthquakes

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By: Hand87_5 - 18th May 2003 at 12:07

Actually I was in Santa Clara that day which is quite close to Santa Cruz where the epicenter was.

Since you’re in LA area , did you experience the quake in 94?

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By: greekdude1 - 17th May 2003 at 20:38

You better believe I remember that, Hand! Mind you, I live in the L.A. area, so even though it was a magnitude 7.1, we did not feel it in my neck of the woods, so they surely would not have felt it in Asia! I have felt other pretty big earthquakes, though, in the magnitude 6 range. No biggie, we get them all the time. Think about how many people would have died in other parts of the world, had a magnitude 7 hit, tens of thousands, as opposed to just 80? The way houses are built here (wood and stucko), they withstand all that, unless the epicenter is about 5 feet under the base of your house. The reason that earthquake was as significant as it was, I was 15 at the time getting ready to watch my Oakland A’s play the San Francisco Giants in the Bay Area World Series (how ironic?). It was almost gametime and all of a sudden, there was static on the screen. The rest, as they say, is history. Amazing how you actually had to endure that on your first trip to the U.S.! I ALMOST had to endure a natural disaster my first, and only time I’ve been to Mexico, when I flew down to Cancun in October of 98. I was there from Oct. 23-26. Let’s just say, the airport was closed on the 27th because of Hurricane Mitch.

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By: Hand87_5 - 17th May 2003 at 14:49

Well , my first trip in the US took place in Oct 89 (15th) and I flew
a gorgeous UTA’s DC10 From CDG to SFO.

After a day to goof of with my friends (it was Sunday) I had to go to work on monday morning.
The working day was uneventful and we all just were about to leave at 5pm when the big shock arrived .

It was 5:04pm that day , the mignitude was 7.1 on Richter’s scale and it was the fear of my life.

I don’t don’t if some of you guys experienced that already but it’ s….. amazing.
The simulation at Universal studio in LA is quite accurate regardless the frequency which is different.

I bet that Greek or some other guys in California or Asia may have experienced that already , but this one was a big one.

“Only” 80 people died , most of them on the Cypress ramp in Oakland . Just remember that a 6.0 quake killed tens of thounsand in Turkey , Iran and Armenia.

Thanks to the good American buiding rules …..

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