In the latest ‘Aeroplane’ it has been reported that Jerry Yagen’s entire WW1 and WW2 aircraft collection will be coming up for sale presumably including DH Mosquito KA114. This raises the interesting possibility that it could be purchased by a UK collector or organisation,brought to the UK and made part of the UK airshow scene. Obviously this may not happen and it could be bought by another American collector but all the same the possibility exists of it coming to the UK. Does anyone think ‘The Fighter Collection’ might be interested in it? Or what about Peter Vacher (did I get his name right) ? Was he not interested in buying a Mosquito B35 in Calgary and making it airworthy in the UK at one point? Or maybe a wealthy entrepreneur might buy KA114 and present it to the BBMF? Or what about the ‘People’s Mosquito’ organisation. Would they be interested? Or what about that outfit that arranges flights in a helicopter next to a Spitfire or Hurricane? Did they not say at one point that they wanted to obtain an airworthy Mossie? Obviously this is all speculation but one of these hypothetical outcomes could happen if enough cash was available.
Colin
By: Bruce - 29th June 2013 at 08:18
Yes, but I’m sure it does help if the wing is sawn up first! 😉
As I said, wing apart….
By: David Burke - 29th June 2013 at 05:48
Bruce -I wasn’t suggesting shipping the Mosquito in one piece! The RO-RO ship takes all sorts of vehicles – a wing on a trailer and fuselage on another is an option .Not everything has to be transported within the constraints of containers and flat racks.
By: ErrolC - 28th June 2013 at 23:24
Photos of the custom container used to get it from NZ in this WONZ thread (along with plane-spotters becoming ship-trackers – yay Panama Canal webcams).
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/post/181719/thread
Warren Denholm from AvSpecs talks about how they plan(ned) to do the transit in this podcast by Dave Homewood.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/18014/episode-wings-over-wairarapa-special
And unboxing photos on WIX
warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48798
Even if a ro-ro was available from NZ, you still have to get it from the port to an airfield – much easier in road-width containers (even if one is 60′ long). When the Zero was shipped entire to NZ from California a few years ago (taking up only a few container slots, unlike the many the Mossie’s footprint would require), reasonably straightforward road journeys were done. In NZ, Tauranga port and airport are quite close!
By: 1batfastard - 28th June 2013 at 22:42
Hi Again on a lighter note,:p
Of course there is an alternative service ‘PARCEL FORCE’ I am sure that the delicate hands of the Neanderthals :dev2: that appear to be employed would be able to squeeze K114 into an ordinary container:);):highly_amused: that is if they do containers but this sums up some feelings about them. http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4rSXqYjNGo😀
Geoff.
By: Mike J - 28th June 2013 at 22:21
Wing apart, the rest of it does go in standard containers. I’ve done it.
Yes, but I’m sure it does help if the wing is sawn up first! 😉
By: Bruce - 28th June 2013 at 21:51
I stand corrected.
Wing apart, the rest of it does go in standard containers. I’ve done it.
By: Mike J - 28th June 2013 at 21:44
…….if you have the million or two to buy the Mosquito…….
…..and the rest. Expect it to fetch a ‘Glacier Girl’-level price.
By: J Boyle - 28th June 2013 at 21:42
It wasn’t a special container – the wing will go on a flat rack, the fuselage fits in a 40′, the rest in another 40′. However, that is pretty expensive….. I know how much it cost, and am glad I didn’t have to pay it! Bruce
I have a hunch if you have the million or two to buy the Mosquito, you can afford the postage.
Heck, most of us couldn’t afford the first full tank of fuel! 🙂
By: Dave Homewood - 28th June 2013 at 21:35
Bruce, Avspecs did create a specially designed container, made from two 40 foot containers cut down, joined and shaped. i saw the guys there building it and lots of photos of it are on my forum. It went on the only ship that crosses the Pacific regularly that takes larger and irregular container sizes.
By: Firebird - 28th June 2013 at 20:23
Risks? Risk is there in flying whether it be over water or land. Remember they were ferried during the war. In more recent times as Bruce states it has been done, B-17’s, Tigercat’s, P-51’s and a Bearcat have crossed the “pond”, I bet others can add to the list.
Between 1979 and 1986 there were 3 trans-Atlantic Mosquito flights alone.
RS709 flew west to east when bought by Doug Arnold, and then flew back across the pond again a few years later when bought by the USAFM.
RS712 flew east to west after being bought by Kermit.
By: 1batfastard - 28th June 2013 at 19:49
I agree with Mr Merry I am sure it was mentioned in the Flypast special on K114 along the lines of a specially constructed container as none where big enough. just a thought while we are on the subject so to speak Mr Yegan was alleged to have bought the fw-189 project but there has been no mention since the thread a while back or in the following link if anybody’s interested :- ]http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/beach-museum-owner-selling…] :confused: surely if he had it would mentioned but I cannot find any updates anywhere.
Geoff
By: Bruce - 28th June 2013 at 17:03
It doesn’t have to come to the U.K in a container at all ! There is a RO-RO ship that sails UK-US each week and you can pretty much put whatever you like in it !
Had that been possible, and they could have shipped it in one piece, they would have done.
By: ozplane - 28th June 2013 at 16:36
But probably not in the only flying example. (I will of course be immediately corrected!)
By: Beaufighter VI - 28th June 2013 at 15:57
Mossie would have to fly here, with all of the attendant risks involved.
That said, its been done – plenty of aircraft have flown the pond in the last few years!
Bruce
Risks? Risk is there in flying whether it be over water or land. Remember they were ferried during the war. In more recent times as Bruce states it has been done, B-17’s, Tigercat’s, P-51’s and a Bearcat have crossed the “pond”, I bet others can add to the list.
By: David Burke - 28th June 2013 at 15:33
It doesn’t have to come to the U.K in a container at all ! There is a RO-RO ship that sails UK-US each week and you can pretty much put whatever you like in it !
By: Bruce - 28th June 2013 at 14:38
Rather than being a ‘one off’ custom, I believe you are seeing a ‘not often used, but available for special circumstances’ container.
By: Mr Merry - 28th June 2013 at 14:34
The April issue of Flypast shows it going into a custom container.
By: Bruce - 28th June 2013 at 14:18
It wasn’t a special container – the wing will go on a flat rack, the fuselage fits in a 40′, the rest in another 40′. However, that is pretty expensive….. I know how much it cost, and am glad I didn’t have to pay it!
Bruce
By: Mr Merry - 28th June 2013 at 13:45
The difficulty with a Mossie is getting it here – most of the other warbirds that have come to visit have come in a 40′ container.
Mossie would have to fly here, with all of the attendant risks involved.
That said, its been done – plenty of aircraft have flown the pond in the last few years!
Bruce
It went to the US in a specially made container, I doubt it would have been chopped up.
By: Bruce - 28th June 2013 at 13:39
The difficulty with a Mossie is getting it here – most of the other warbirds that have come to visit have come in a 40′ container.
Mossie would have to fly here, with all of the attendant risks involved.
That said, its been done – plenty of aircraft have flown the pond in the last few years!
Bruce
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