November 4, 2006 at 9:14 am
Without getting bogged down with ‘what constitutes an airworthy Spitfire?’ or even ‘what constitutes a real Spitfire?’, but using the definitions in the ‘Spitfires on the Wing’ survey supplement to March 2002 Flypast; the total number of Spitfires that have got airborne under their own power since the BoB Film now totals 69.
The f/f of JG891 this past 2nd November brings a further four added to the list in the past eleven months.
Mark
By: David Burke - 20th October 2012 at 19:28
The numbers are dull unless you let your mind wander to the characters who have been part of the Spitfire story in the last few decades.The Hanna’s -Doug Arnold – Spencer Flack -Cliff Robertson – Neil Williams and countless others who have been part of the story or who have paid the ultimate price bringing the image to the public.
By: ErrolC - 20th October 2012 at 19:11
Great work.
Work on NH799 will be getting into full swing, now that a certain twin-engined distraction is test-flying.
By: pagen01 - 20th October 2012 at 18:35
Others may have differing definitions. 🙂
As far as I’m concerned, when it comes to Spitfires your definition is the definition!:)
By: DazDaMan - 20th October 2012 at 15:59
Well, whatever the definition, it’s nice to see another low-back Spitfire XVI flying again. Too few in my opinion.
By: Mark12 - 20th October 2012 at 10:05
So, looking at it another way, assuming for this discussion, 8 or 9 -off the top of my head – airworthy for the film itself, that means there have been a total of about 85-90 airworthy Spitfires in those 40 years – so there must be about 35-40 that were airworthy that aren’t any more.
Be interesting to know the reasons for this attrition.
Participants in the BoB film are included in the 78.
So 28 Spitfires and Seafires fall in to the categories, ‘airworthy resting’, ‘lost in crashes’, ‘long term restoration for a variety of reasons’, ‘retired to museums’ etc.
Mark
By: jeepman - 20th October 2012 at 09:40
So, looking at it another way, assuming for this discussion, 8 or 9 -off the top of my head – airworthy for the film itself, that means there have been a total of about 85-90 airworthy Spitfires in those 40 years – so there must be about 35-40 that were airworthy that aren’t any more.
Be interesting to know the reasons for this attrition.
By: Mark12 - 20th October 2012 at 09:32
Have AR501 and G-AIDN been included as flyers?
No. Not by my definition.
Both are in the ‘under major refurbishment’ category
Mark
By: Propstrike - 20th October 2012 at 09:21
There seems to be a great gravitational pull to the figure ’50’. I remember the FlyPast mag listing perhaps 15 years ago, and 50 was the number back then as well.
Since then, there have been numerous ‘debutantes’, though sadly quite a few losses . Have AR501 and G-AIDN been included as flyers?
By: Jayce - 20th October 2012 at 09:12
Great news Mark! Though it somewhat puts it in perspective that that wouldn’t even be one flyer for every squadron in the UK in 1944!
By: ollieholmes - 6th November 2006 at 08:09
Trawl through old FlyPast’s I am afraid and a copy of W&R had a picture of her .
Ive had a go through my old Flypasts and cannot find one. I dont have an old wrecks and relics copy.
By: David Burke - 6th November 2006 at 08:07
Trawl through old FlyPast’s I am afraid and a copy of W&R had a picture of her .
By: ollieholmes - 5th November 2006 at 23:51
Ollie- she was rebuilt using a former Russian centre section and the static left overs from various Hurricane projects at that time.
Is there any photos of her around?
By: Mark V - 5th November 2006 at 22:43
how many hurricanes are airworthy?
LF363 – BBMF, RAF Coningsby, UK.
PZ865 – BBMF, RAF Coningsby, UK.
G-BKTH – Sea Hurricane – Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden, UK.
G-HURR – Spitfire Ltd, Duxford UK.
KZ321 – Michael Potter, Canada.
G-HURI – HAC, Duxford UK.
RCAF 5667 – Fighter Factory, Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA.
AE977 – Tom Friedkin, Chino Ca, USA.
P3351 – Alpine Fighter Collection, Wanaka, NZ.
Former Mk XII G-ORGI, Ed Russell, Niagra, Canada.
C-GGAJ – Michael Potter, Canada (grounded pending restoration)
G-HUPW, R4118 – Mk 1 – Peter Vacher, Didcot ,UK.
G-KAMM – Flying Heritage Collection, Seattle, USA.
NX96RW – Lone Star Flight Museum, Texas , USA.
To answer your second question “How many more will be re-built” is a bit more difficult. Lots hopefully.
By: David Burke - 5th November 2006 at 22:28
Ollie- she was rebuilt using a former Russian centre section and the static left overs from various Hurricane projects at that time.
By: ollieholmes - 5th November 2006 at 22:12
Be very surprised if P3717 would be restored as a two seater – she was statically rebuilt by Steve Milnthorpe, and she’s a genuine battle of britain veteran, downing a dornier
Thank you for that. Interesting you mention she was staticaly rebuilt.
By: DazDaMan - 5th November 2006 at 21:57
It will indeed – the aforementioned article mentioned that the aircraft was already being worked on.
I just wish I could find the bloody mag! :rolleyes:
By: Propstrike - 5th November 2006 at 21:51
PL983 does not seem to appear in these lists, though it is referred to in our ‘Spitfire Survey’ thread of yesterday.
It is the ex Old Warden / Martin Sergeant aeroplane which was ‘destroyed’ in France six years ago, but seemingly will rise again.
By: pogno - 5th November 2006 at 21:50
Here’s Seafire LF111c PP972 back in 1999 at Earls Colne. Lot still to do at that time but hopefully getting close to completion.

By: Mark12 - 5th November 2006 at 21:18
You could add LZ842 to your list, well on its way to airworthy restoration.. 🙂
I personally would take RX168 off the list. The accumulated collection of parts previously associated with this ‘project’ are now destined principally for inclusion in Mk I’s P9374 and N3200.
Mark
By: Tom_W - 5th November 2006 at 20:49
TD314 – being rebuilt as a MkV? That doesn’t make much sense to me, but then I suppose the owner can do as they want with it…
…indeed, firewall-back there’s not much difference between a MKV and an early IX, though I know that this IX wasn’t originally an ‘early’ one 😉 As you say Daz, it’s the owner’s choice at the end of the day.
Tom