Almost intact Douglas A-20 Havoc found in Finnish waters

Nice movie of a Bf 109 in Norway. The aircraft looked very well preserved under water but when it was at the surface it collapsed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdMzwDYFIFo

Now is probably the time to ask the pipe laying company if they might be interested in a recovery … Especially while the ROVs etc are in the area.

Here’s the Google Translate version:-

Bill T.

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An intact bomber was found at the bottom of the Gulf of Finland – “Very rare”

The wreck is located near the Baltic Sea gas pipeline in the western Gulf of Finland.
10.5.2017 at 18:38
Bomber frame on the seabed
The picture shows the bomber’s body. The engines have survived surprisingly well. Nor Stream 2 AG
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What is it all about?

The western Gulf of Finland has been found to be an exceptionally fit bomber wreck
The plane is estimated to have fallen in World War II
It lies approximately one mile from the Baltic Sea gas pipeline route
Vantaa Aviation Museum is estimated to have a very low level of survival of the fallen aircraft

A prominent bomber wreck has been found in the proximity of the Baltic Sea gas pipeline running off to Finland. The machine is located about a hundred meters in the western Gulf of Finland.

– It was completely intact. The machine is about 11 meters long and has a wingspan of 18 meters, says Minna Sundelin, the stakeholder group manager at Nord Stream 2.

The marine archeologist has evaluated the wreckage. This is the American Douglas DB-7 Boston / A-20 Havoc airplane with two engines. The allies, including the Soviet Union, used these machines in World War II. The wreck found last year is located about a mile from the Baltic Sea gas pipeline line.

– Far far away, it does not affect the route planning. We do not know if there are any ammo on the machine. We take into account the findings within 250 meters of the pipeline, says Sundelin.

Details of the skies have been submitted to the National Board of Antiquities. Finding it first told you

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Generally scattered and small pieces

Vantaa aviation museum is estimated to have been left with a chance to survive the fallen plane. When an aircraft dives from the sky to the ground or into the sea, it usually goes to pieces.

– The sinking of a sinking ship intact is more likely. It is very rare that the airplane will survive the first contact with the water and all the way from the bottom to the bottom, “notes the marine archaeologist, Matias Laitinen, aviation aviation museum.

Keeping a sinking ship intact is more likely.
Matias Laitinen

According to Laitinen, divers find some of the parts of the Soviet-era bomber in the waterways, but their registry data are incomplete.

– In addition, machine wrecks are scattered and small pieces, so they can be difficult to detect and understand as part of the machine.
Bomber frame on the seabed
The bomber lies at a depth of 100 meters. Nor Stream 2 AG
A merchant ship from the 18th century

The new gas pipeline route on Nord Stream is currently exploring the various environmental risks that may be caused by pipeline construction. The company has photographed the seabed on the tube route and also found shipwrecks and other marine archaeological finds.

One of them is a wooden merchant ship in the eastern Gulf of Finland, estimated to date from the 18th century.

– The ship is fragmented and its nearest ice is about 220 meters from the pipeline route. During the construction work, we take care of the wreck, “says Minna Sundelin, Nord Stream’s stakeholder manager.

In addition, the seabed has been found during the First and Second World War, thousands of mines, bombs and grenades. About fifty of them have to be cleansed from the pipe.

The biggest environmental burden comes from mines blasting. Wet troughs on the seabed will be cleared from the gas pipeline route during the line construction phase.

– Then animals must be expelled from the area. It’s done with a voice that drives animals like seals off, “says Simon Bonell, vice president of Nord Stream 2 AG.

The planned gas pipeline also crosses with 24 cables to be protected with concrete.
Bomber wreck
Nord Stream 2 AG
A total of 90,000 pipes are coated in Finland

Gas pipe components are coated in Germany and Finland. Work at the plating factory in Kotka started in March. Wasco Coatings Finland coats up to 90,000 tubes in Kotka’s Mussalo harbor. The work will continue until the end of next year.

All in all, pipes are needed around 200,000.

If the project authorization procedure proceeds as planned, pipeline construction will begin next spring. The pipeline will initially be built from Russia via the Gulf of Finland to Germany.

The construction of a gas pipeline from the German route begins in winter 2019.

Now it has been reported that the Havoc is in international waters. Finnish museums are not interested in recovering it, probably it would be too expensive, it lies in a depth of about 100 meters. I wonder if somebody with a lot of money to spend would be eager?

If it was soviet lend lease then does it belong to the USA?

The Baltic is a mixture – dense freshwater deeper down, less dense seawater nearer the surface. Looks really well preserved.

I don’t read Finnish. Is this in salt water or a freshwater lake?

Gulf of Finland is salt water, part of the Baltic Sea.

I don’t read Finnish. Is this in salt water or a freshwater lake? If freshwater, it could be an excellent candidate for recovery and restoration. I assume this is a VVS machine?

SN

If only we knew somebody who was looking for an aircraft to recover and who could…

…’quite easily arrange recovery using a cheap and easy recovery system’.

Lovely find but I wonder what will happen to it?!

Rob

Amazing condition.