Alpha One A Year On (Merged)

Enough!

Moggy.

Ahhhhaaaaaaaaaa – Now i get it – this is yet another put-up publicity job by Mr H or one of his cronies.

YET ANOTHER “new poster” who weaves some rubbish that leads neatly to “Martin is really trying to do a great job under difficult circumstances and should be applauded“

Do me a favour Martin – just try to concentrate properley on your charity driving to ensure it generates more money than your “airline” did – sick children dont have the time to wait around for your changes of plans to come to fruition.

And why is a positive note by a new poster any less acceptable than a negative by a new poster which seem to always be embraced.
In fact we have one or two members that only ever post about AlphaOne, and negatively. Yet I do not see you question them?

Hello All

Ive made the recruired contact with the people concerned with regards to the Alpha 1 brand and I await feedback from all parties concerned.

I appreciate the fact that Martin may not have had the best people or best advice behind him but no one can dought that he had the conviction to do something about his life the outcome was never positive from day one but at least he can rest assured that he started an airline and hopefully in the future he would have learnt from his mistakes and 5 or 10 years from now we will be hearing more of Martin perhaps starting something new in airline travel but fore now Let the whole issue go.

If I do manage to secure the alpha 1 brand at a price reflecting both the positive and negative exposure of the brand I assure you, you will be hearing more of the Brand just not in the UK, the brand is to be used at a new location under a new venture.

regards
KALIMITED

Ahhhhaaaaaaaaaa – Now i get it – this is yet another put-up publicity job by Mr H or one of his cronies.

YET ANOTHER “new poster” who weaves some rubbish that leads neatly to “Martin is really trying to do a great job under difficult circumstances and should be applauded“

Do me a favour Martin – just try to concentrate properley on your charity driving to ensure it generates more money than your “airline” did – sick children dont have the time to wait around for your changes of plans to come to fruition.

Hello All

Ive made the recruired contact with the people concerned with regards to the Alpha 1 brand and I await feedback from all parties concerned.

I appreciate the fact that Martin may not have had the best people or best advice behind him but no one can dought that he had the conviction to do something about his life the outcome was never positive from day one but at least he can rest assured that he started an airline and hopefully in the future he would have learnt from his mistakes and 5 or 10 years from now we will be hearing more of Martin perhaps starting something new in airline travel but fore now Let the whole issue go.

If I do manage to secure the alpha 1 brand at a price reflecting both the positive and negative exposure of the brand I assure you, you will be hearing more of the Brand just not in the UK, the brand is to be used at a new location under a new venture.

regards
KALIMITED

hind·sight
n.
1. Perception of the significance and nature of events after they have occurred.

My emphasis.

I think you’ll find I was pointing out this was all a fantasy from pretty much day one.

Always the patronising one aint we :rolleyes:

the hindsight was the comment you took great delight in sharing, that was

“I told you so”
😀

You can only say that after the event because it has failed, and no matter how you dress it up or down you could not have known it would have gone that way, not really, it was your opinion and not fact at the time that it would fail, sure it’s fact now but it’s the way you come across that get’s up people’s noses.
There were only ever 2 outcomes, achieve or fail, a 50 – 50 chance of getting the right outcome, so well done you, very commendable, as is revelling in someone else’s mis-fortunes and failures.

Sandy.

PS. If you go to www.flyalphaone.com you will observe that the domain name is actually up for sale.

Try www.flyalphaone.co.uk then!

“I told you so”

😀

Over and out.

Wonderful hindsight there, well played

At least he tried, he may have failed, it may not have come off, but at least he had the balls to give it a shot

I feel sorry for the investors, actually no I don’t, they were taken in by the hype as much as anyone else but should have known better.

Sorry, but who are this “everyone else” that were supposedly taken in by the hype??? :confused: :p

Andy

Sandy.

Stop being so pious. You’ve done a bit of excelling in that area yourself in the past.

AlphaOne were due to start operations a year ago. They operated for a couple of weeks in December and now appear to have sunk without trace.

If KALIMITED wishes to purchase the name, go for it, I doubt that Mr. Halstead will be bothering with it again.

PS. If you go to www.flyalphaone.com you will observe that the domain name is actually up for sale. Popularity is ranked as 0/10 and two previous offers have been made. Perhaps KALIMITED may be able to get through to Mr. Halstead using that route.

It looks as though AlphaOne are no longer being marketed and are, therefore, no more.

Regards,

kev35

Michael

Making assuptions would get no one anywhere……

This is something many members here excel at.

Michael

Making assuptions would get no one anywhere, to be frank with you, I would most definetly only be looking at the brand name to operate it outside of the United Kingdom.
I do not feel from a marketing and financial point of view I could ever make the brand work as it has been tarnished enough, But I feel that using the name and brand at a new country will work at least I know I will be the Owner of the AOC rather than placing the aircraft under someone elses.
With regards to the domain name , that was a little below the belt and uncalled for, I merly asked of how someone would contact Martin as I have been told he used to frequent these forums and I have also tried calling his trading company with no positive outcome coming to these forums has been a last gast effort, if you can help us then please let me know.

regards
KALIMITED

Although am only new on this forum, but seriously speaking how much would the domain name and the website be worth along with the alpha 1 airways company name be and how would someone contact Martin to take over the reighns of ALPHA 1 as a going concern.

regards
KALIMITED

Is this a wind-up?

IF you seriously wanted to take over the brand identity of an airline (however small or failed), then you would be a serious enough business-person to know how to find and approach the principal such a company and how to value, structure and make a proper take-over offer.

However, your quote “how would someone contact Martin to take over the reighns of ALPHA 1 as a going concern” intregues me – what exactly would you do with the “reins” once you had them?

Are you suggesting that you would seriously attempt to run it as an airline ? or are you simply a domain name grabber who wants to spin it around and flog the brand-name to someone else for a quick profit ?

I know which one i think it is.

Michael

Although am only new on this forum, but seriously speaking how much would the domain name and the website be worth along with the alpha 1 airways company name be and how would someone contact Martin to take over the reighns of ALPHA 1 as a going concern.

regards
KALIMITED

Funny how the CAA scapegoat came flying out as soon as the proverbial hit the fan…

Sorry Andy I wasnt referring to anything A1 said, I was referring to any credible reference that a Jetstream had actualy been required.

I’ve never seen any actual reference to a Jetstream ever actualy being acquired and having modifications made to it for A1.

Sorry, I don’t give people wriggle room like that…

“Alpha One Airways now employs 10 people. Scheduled services commenced between Edinburgh and the Isle of Man on 14 December, initially with an eight seat Navajo Chieftain turboprop. Alpha One’s first BAE SYSTEMS Jetsream 31, 18-seater debuts on 30 January. Once the Edinburgh route is firmly bedded in, Alpha One will look to develop other routes. It is interested in Leeds and Cardiff, both from the Isle of Man.”

Halstead now says “A new CAA directive has forced us to get traffic collision avoidance systems fitted to our aircraftearlier than we had originally anticipated. As a result our fleet (sic) has had to remain in the hanger at Coventtry whilst the work, which costs upwards of £150,000 per aircraft is carried out. Both planes are nearing the completion of the fit and will be re delivered to the airline within the next few weeks”

Its all in this topic, posts 395 and 417 in particular:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51072&page=14&pp=30&highlight=Alpha%23post871179

All the Jetstreams into the UK recently have been being tracked quite well by various spotter groups due to the large number being flown across the pond for BlueIslands and Eastern, all of which have gone to Biggin and Humberside for their mods.

Indeed, I am aware of that, and that’s precisely why I asked the question – are/were the Jetstreams at Coventry, or was that another figment of someone’s imagination?

Andy

I feel sorry for the investors, actually no I don’t, they were taken in by the hype as much as anyone else but should have known better.

So were there ever any Jetstreams at Coventry having TCAS fitted, or was that another figment of someone’s imagination?

Andy

I’ve never seen any actual reference to a Jetstream ever actualy being acquired and having modifications made to it for A1. All the Jetstreams into the UK recently have been being tracked quite well by various spotter groups due to the large number being flown across the pond for BlueIslands and Eastern, all of which have gone to Biggin and Humberside for their mods.

Alpha One got it seriously wrong. They got £Millions worth of free publicity and went and blew it, if they ever relaunch it’s going to have to be under a different name.

Has it only been a year? It all sounded quite far-fetched from the beginning.