Am I alone?

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You shouldn’t be so open about it, it may offend someone :)[/QUOTE
I think even Martians have a sense of humour!!!

They must have,seen the hicks they abduct…………. 😀

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I think even Martians have a sense of humour!!!

Some of the contributors on this forum are from another planet

You shouldn’t be so open about it, it may offend someone 🙂

Some of the contributors on this forum are from another planet

YOU NEVER KNOW WHOS WATCHING YOU OR READING THIS.
little gray fellas.
lizards in human form.(mr ike)
people from cleethorps.
space is big, i mean realy realy big…………………………….. 😮

Some of the contributors on this forum are from another planet

Why do most people think life on another world will ALWAYS be more advanced??

Who knows, maybe there is a “humanoid” race or equiv going through a Stone Age, Iron Age or Bronze Age. Or perhaps their industrial revolution. Maybe WE are the more advanced life form…..who knows. Unless you believe all those alien abductees…..

I, for one, believe there are species out there both sides of our development. The ones behind us are no threat and the ones more advanced than us have probably not made contact because they’ve seen the job we’re doing of destroying ourselves that they realise that they’ll be able to take over without opposition in about 50 years.

The yank scientists say that we are the only living things ……. Rollocks…
Just because us humans (and I dont think all in this forum are!) need Oxygen and sunlight to live…… how do they know that some bug eyed monster who lives on Mercury cant survive breathing in a 100* nitrogen cloud?

Thanks for being so understanding, now where did I leave my helium? 😀 This thread has been dormant so long that I thought everyone had forgotten it. Nice to know it’s still got some life left.

Why do most people think life on another world will ALWAYS be more advanced??

Who knows, maybe there is a “humanoid” race or equiv going through a Stone Age, Iron Age or Bronze Age. Or perhaps their industrial revolution. Maybe WE are the more advanced life form…..who knows. Unless you believe all those alien abductees…..

Hi Shorty, I have one more for you since you seem to be pretty much on top of things.

The space elevator is theoretically possible but for right now impossible because of “ORBITAL DEBRIS”. I capped that because the situation deserves capital attention!
I worked with sats when I was in the army and I know whats out there. How many know that the gov was exploding atomic weapons in low earth orbit during the infancy of our nuclear weapons program or that the shuttle had some near misses with orbital debris.
I am going to approach Burt Rutan on this subject and I have already approached NASA on the subject but I am still waiting for a reply.
A chain reaction collision in orbit could cease all spaceflight for decades!! Geostationary communications slots are getting scarce and no company I know of has incorporated a de-orbit contingency into their vehicles!
My proposal to Burt is a sort of ” Space Garbage Truck ” capable of latching on to or capturing debris that can then be de-orbited using the “trucks” thrusters.
At the moment, LEO debris is of more concern but eventually, the geostationary vehicles must also be de-orbited to make space for more efficient ones.
As you can tell,I am very concerned about this. I am a new member of this forum and I find that it is a good place to vent my fears and frustraions.
In my mind, Nostradamus´ predictions of armagedon refers to the the cloud of LEO debris that would result from a chain reaction collision which would render our space program useless.
Ohh, by the way, Initial space travel prices are currently set at:

$100,000,000.00 for an around the moon vacation by a Japanese company
$20.000.000.00 for a space station visit and
$100.000.00 for a suborbital 5 to 10 minutes of zeroG flight.

I hope Moores Law applies to that!!

Shorty !

OOOPS I see from one of your posted links that Mr. Arthur Clarke shares my views. I am also a member of space.com. I am surprised that I didnt see that page. Cool !

Hi Shorty, I have one more for you since you seem to be pretty much on top of things.

The space elevator is theoretically possible but for right now impossible because of “ORBITAL DEBRIS”. I capped that because the situation deserves capital attention!
I worked with sats when I was in the army and I know whats out there. How many know that the gov was exploding atomic weapons in low earth orbit during the infancy of our nuclear weapons program or that the shuttle had some near misses with orbital debris.
I am going to approach Burt Rutan on this subject and I have already approached NASA on the subject but I am still waiting for a reply.
A chain reaction collision in orbit could cease all spaceflight for decades!! Geostationary communications slots are getting scarce and no company I know of has incorporated a de-orbit contingency into their vehicles!
My proposal to Burt is a sort of ” Space Garbage Truck ” capable of latching on to or capturing debris that can then be de-orbited using the “trucks” thrusters.
At the moment, LEO debris is of more concern but eventually, the geostationary vehicles must also be de-orbited to make space for more efficient ones.
As you can tell,I am very concerned about this. I am a new member of this forum and I find that it is a good place to vent my fears and frustraions.
In my mind, Nostradamus´ predictions of armagedon refers to the the cloud of LEO debris that would result from a chain reaction collision which would render our space program useless.
Ohh, by the way, Initial space travel prices are currently set at:

$100,000,000.00 for an around the moon vacation by a Japanese company
$20.000.000.00 for a space station visit and
$100.000.00 for a suborbital 5 to 10 minutes of zeroG flight.

I hope Moores Law applies to that!!

Hi Shorty01
I recently saw footage of a succesful test of the X43 after its initial mishaps. They quoted that the vehicle attained mach 10 but another source stated that it only reached mach 7.something.Does anyone know more ?

You are absolutely correct according to probability! I feel the same way you do. I actually wanted to discuss the X43 but I somehow landed here.

Flood,

I’m merely repeating the utterances of some of the people working in the field of advanced space propulsion.

we’ve currently got a satellite (SMART-1) going to the moon powered by Ion drive. This is not entirely new, but it is the first time it has ben used to travel interplanetary distances. Over an extended period of time the Ion engines can get you up to a fair old lick.

I didn’t say it couldn’t be done, I just haven’t seen anything about new propulsion in the industry other than the Ion engines for a while. Oh, i did just find on Google something about a “Fissioning Plasma Core Reactor”. I shall have to investigate further.

Nasa are playing with the X43 at present. The first few had problems, so they are trying again in a year or so. However, this is an atmospheric engine research program.

Anyway, I think people are starting to look at the space elevator idea a bit more seriously now. If we pull that off things will get really exciting, well exciting until the budget man cometh.

You’re going to ask about the space elevator now aren’t you ?

Well the idea is if you have a tether long enough and strong enough with a counter balance in space then the tether would remain taught and you could have elevators going up & down it saving all the current hassle of launch vehicles.

Such a system would ease construction of a space station or large spacecraft necessary for deep space travel. As I have said many times on other space related threads, alot of our progress is still dictated by the bean counters and the need to feed the masses, give them health care & a good education.

After some Googling, some articles are here,

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_030917.html

http://www.isr.us/SEConcept.asp?m=2

Shorty…

And what would they have said 100 years ago about traveling at 100mph? Without touching the ground? Or how about going higher than the birds could fly? And you would have been locked up for making suggestions about leaving the planet…
So what is to say that in another hundred years we wouldn’t have taken another vast step for mankind? Hell, light speed is possibly – we make things that do it all the time! Just got to figure out how to benefit from it!!!

Flood.

Originally posted by Shorty01
It depends what you mean by alone. Do you mean are there any other life forms out there, no matter what size or level of development. If so, then yes there probably is some form of life out there. If you mean have they developed warp drive, telepathy and sexy cyborg women then I’m afraid that the chances are somewhat less good.

Another point, if intelligent alien life forms do exist and visit us, why is it only Americans they abduct (controversial) ?.

There is an interesting Nasa website on future projects that talks about the energy needed to propel a ship interstella distances. Sadly for the Buck Rogers boys the maths comes out that there probably isn’t enough energy in the universe to have lots of Mega ships whizzing around.

Sorry to spoil your fantasies, but try this

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/

Hi Shorty

I am convinced we are not alone in the universe, I just wondered if I was alone in that conviction, now I know that others are as concvinced I’m happy

Originally posted by Kat
Normal, Mikey? Define normality.
Know anyone on these forums that would fit your definition? 🙂

Good point. As No 2 son always puts it: we are all individuals with our own idiosyncrasies therefor there is no base line to define normality by hence there is no such thing as normal. (isn’t that a deep thought for a Sunday morning?)

It depends what you mean by alone. Do you mean are there any other life forms out there, no matter what size or level of development. If so, then yes there probably is some form of life out there. If you mean have they developed warp drive, telepathy and sexy cyborg women then I’m afraid that the chances are somewhat less good.

Another point, if intelligent alien life forms do exist and visit us, why is it only Americans they abduct (controversial) ?.

There is an interesting Nasa website on future projects that talks about the energy needed to propel a ship interstella distances. Sadly for the Buck Rogers boys the maths comes out that there probably isn’t enough energy in the universe to have lots of Mega ships whizzing around.

Sorry to spoil your fantasies, but try this

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/

Normal, Mikey? Define normality.
Know anyone on these forums that would fit your definition? 🙂

Originally posted by plawolf
mike:

😉 nice to know all the time i spent staring into space (not outer space, just ‘space’ :p) was not all for nothing.:D 😉

That makes 2 of us then

Thanks for the replies everyone I feel almost normal though I doubt Kat will allow that to remain the case for long