American navy has a spy problem – article

Back in time a little, but my Old Man, 22 years a Snowdrop, still says, ‘A security clearance is only good at the moment it is issued.’

No more rotten than most other organizations.

Spies have been everywhere….I seem to recall something about a friend of the Queen, members of MI 5…;)

Firstly I know that Britain has had (more than?) its fair share of spies, but not many recently (any?) and, I suppose, that was my point.
And some of the cases listed were more in the good old capitalist fashion than for a political ideal.

Sad that the U.S. admitted him, trained him as a sailor, commissioned him an officer…all leading to this.

Stinks, doesn’t it. But he must have passed all the tests, jumped through all the hoops, impressed those who needed to be impressed; how many others were in the same situation and didn’t spy though…?

Rather like that Islamic Army psychiatrist that killed the 13 soldiers in Texas…the Army sent him to medical school, made him an officer and he was still radicalized.

Ho hum. Firstly I believe he was actually in the US army and, secondly, I thought it was his mental state and the reluctance of his fellow officers at Fort Hood to do anything about him that allowed him to brood. When he claimed he was harassed due to his religion little was done, and his trial became a farce with claims that he was given a poor performance evaluation yet his boss was forced to admit on the stand that he had given the shooter an outstanding grade in his last evaluation.
But he did do it, he was not innocent and he has admitted being the killer.

One might come to the conclusion that in its rush to be “diverse”, more care needs to be taken in the screening process.

Bit difficult in a country where the vast majority are descended from immigrants – the Fort Hood gunman was an American, born in Virginia. What is your baseline, where does ‘diversity’ kick in – if your candidate is not of white European stock do you immediately start the screening process?

Then again, we don’t hear enough about the success stories of foreign born military members. A recent Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was a Pole who immigrated to America at 16, was drafted as a private, liked the Army, so applied for Officer training…retired as a 4-star, so as usual, you can’t make too many generations. I literally bumped into him at the Pentagon, he was by himself, no aides or staff, he said “Hello”…seemed like a genuine nice guy.

Indeed. Then again there was a country who, not so long ago, allowed someone not born within their borders to become their fuhrer and look how that ended up…;o)

Me too !

Equivalence always equals justification – doesn’t it ?

No, just mature enough to look at all sides of an issue.

JB

Are you by chance paid by the American Govt. ?

‘generalisations’

Whereas these days the only people who can be bothered to spy on the Brits are the French. 😉

No more rotten than most other organizations.

Spies have been everywhere….I seem to recall something about a friend of the Queen, members of MI 5…;)

Sad that the U.S. admitted him, trained him as a sailor, commissioned him an officer…all leading to this.
Rather like that Islamic Army psychiatrist that killed the 13 soldiers in Texas…the Army sent him to medical school, made him an officer and he was still radicalized.

One might come to the conclusion that in its rush to be “diverse”, more care needs to be taken in the screening process.

Then again, we don’t hear enough about the success stories of foreign born military members. A recent Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was a Pole who immigrated to America at 16, was drafted as a private, liked the Army, so applied for Officer training…retired as a 4-star, so as usual, you can’t make too many generations. I literally bumped into him at the Pentagon, he was by himself, no aides or staff, he said “Hello”…seemed like a genuine nice guy.