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Visited Schiphol yesterday and have seen amongst others these planes.

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I am trying something new, I posted the pics in a blanc website of my own. Hopefully I can now hotlink photo’s without having to post the small preview pic, or post a seperate post per photo by the “attach-file” option.
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Well, I gave this one a try, and it does not seem to work. Oh well, back to the old way of posting pics.

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By: tenthije - 1st February 2004 at 17:19

That’s Ukraine International airlines.

http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/7/1/7/484717.jpg

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By: Old Git - 1st February 2004 at 17:04

Excellent shots Tenthije. What is the B737 in the background of the first shot (Bulgari), I can’t quite make out who it belongs to.

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By: Airline owner - 1st February 2004 at 08:02

Always hood to see an A 320

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By: tenthije - 1st February 2004 at 00:12

i have just gone though 500 NW 742s, no new livery at all. I must have mistaken a 744 for a 742. Sorry!

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By: ACA345 - 1st February 2004 at 00:01

Originally posted by tenthije
KLM Cithopper F70 taking of from 06/24. Normally this runway is used either for landings or for take-offs, yesterday it was changed quite often. I missed a few interesting planes because of that. For instance a NW 747-200 in the new livery.

Whoaa, I didnt even know NW was painting the 742 in the new c/s. Is there any photo available anywhere?

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By: LZ-BTZ - 31st January 2004 at 22:25

Originally posted by Ren Frew
Just getting those red X’s .:(

Balkan airlines was the name of the Bulgarian flag carrier for almost 50 years. After being privatized it went bankruptcy.
After thet the government orginized Balkan air tour, which was renamed to Bulgaria air. 4 airplanes:
LZ-BOG B737-330 leased from LH
LZ-BOH B737-330 leased from LH
LZ-BOI B737-530 leased from LH
LZ-BOJ B737-3L9 leased form CITairspace

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By: robc - 26th August 2003 at 00:01

Just Amazing!

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By: 25L - EBBR - 25th August 2003 at 23:57

Nice pics tenthije.

I was at Schiphol on Saturday (23rd) having driven up from Brussels. Landings were from the west all day right past the Macdonalds but the new runway was also being used for some landings and many takeoffs, which creates some difficulties.

I spent most of the morning at Macdonalds but when the rain stopped and the clouds cleared the heathaze became too much to be able to read stuff taxying at the terminal, so I had to bite the bullet and pay the carpark fees – Euro 10.15 for 3 hours!!!

The Iranair was a 747SP when I would have preferred the A300 – guess i’ll just have to go again soon!

(Visited Paris/CDG last Monday (18th) and it rained there too, for the 1st couple of hours)

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By: tenthije - 22nd August 2003 at 16:45

dan330
I’m sure I’ll have a great time and hopefully get some good shots

Will you be posting some here?

Unfortunately I can’t join you since I have to work.

Interflug62M
a great place for buying model aircraft…gone now I expect

There still is a planemodel shop at Schiphol Airport. It is landside as well! It is located at the “Schiphol Plaza” shopping centre. This is the same centre that has the train station, so it sounds like it is the same one.
This shop is really great for models and some magazines, but not much else. If you are really into books (various languages, all European as well as Russian, Ukranian and no doubt more) and magazines, flight sims and model kits (the ones you build yourself) as well as pre-fab models there is a better store. This is the store I described in my previous post. The one with the decapitated windmill.

http://www.lhshop.nl/lhshop.asp website in English only, also includes more detailed instructions on how to get there.

Interflug62M
seeing my first real Interflug IL62M on the ramp at SPL

Wow! I never knew Interflug flew the IL-62 to Schiphol! I do have got a picture of a Tu-134A of interflug (DM-SCR)! Unfortunately my dad’s scanner is crap so I can’t make a good scan of it. If only I had a digital back then…

Note for the overly serious, I am aware that digitals weren’t around yet 12 years back.

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By: MSR777 - 21st August 2003 at 21:56

Great pics-Thanks alot. SPL has always been a favourite airport of mine. I used to make many trips there in the 80s and 90s to visit the famous Drug Store in the underpass to the railway station…a great place for buying model aircraft…gone now I expect. Belated thanks to the many friendly Air UK flight deck crew who used to allow me to transport these models home in safety stowing them “up front”. Great shot of the Iran Air 310 and the Fokker types. I always remember the excitement of seeing my first real Interflug IL62M on the ramp at SPL as we waited to depart on an Air UK F27 to STN which was on the next stand…Happy Days!

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By: dan330 - 21st August 2003 at 21:41

Should have known it was Kalitta, the aircraft comes in to EMA (20 miles away) before flying out to AMS! :rolleyes:

Thanks for the very detailled instructions, don’t mind a bit of a walk and sure we’ll find somewhere.
Only there for the day but I’m sure I’ll have a great time and hopefully get some good shots.

Thanks Again.

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By: KabirT - 21st August 2003 at 10:30

great pics!

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By: tenthije - 20th August 2003 at 23:37

The 747 is from Kalitta Air. Martinair still has 747 (they just got a new one a few weeks back, B747-200SUD PH-BUH ex KLM).
http://www.jetphotos.net/images/k/kalitta.jpg.22701.jpg.thumb

To go to the spot you can take the 191, 193 and 198 to the spot. Get of at the bus stop called “Aalsmeerderweg” (just ask the driver to give an announcement, they won’t do it unless you ask). Please make sure you are on the south bound bus, this is the bus driving through parking P30. The bus stops at the bus lane furthest away from Schiphol Plaza.

When you are at the bus stop, you have to get into Aalsmeerderweg. This is the first road on your left (looking into the direction of the bus you just got of from) running parralel to runway 06/24. After a 24 minute stroll you will be there.

There are two spots. The official one and the notquitesoofficial one. The official one will give you when the runway is used for take-offs (most common):

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/2/20030714-037-01.jpg.93222.jpg.thumb

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/0/02082003-009-01.jpg.jpg.10664.jpg.thumb

When the runway is in use for landings you get:

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/k/kuwait-a343-9kana.jpg.27268.jpg.thumb

When you walk a bit further you will find the taxiway linking to S-apron with civilization. Here you can make close-ups of planes. To put things in comparison, I made a side-on shot of the B777-300ER with my 50mm camera with very little room to spare. Here too pictures can be made of planes on the runway, though you will be to far for rotation shots.

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/p/phmcu.jpg.13664.jpg.thumb

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/b/boeing777300er2.jpg.55404.jpg.thumb

In between this spot and the official spot there is the notquitesoofficial spot, a grass field. Just sit here, there will be no problem. Here the smaller planes (A320/B737) rotate, but the bigger ones (A340/B747) will just race by.

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/0/02082003-016-01.jpg.jpg.34588.jpg.thumb

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/m/martinair.jpg.43706.jpg.thumb

In Holland you have to buy a “strippenkaart” to use the bus. This can be done in the bus, but at a HEFTY premium. The bus fare is 3 strips. Holland is divided into zones, and you have to pay on strip for each zone plus one extra per journey. You are best of buying a “15-strippenkaart”. This will be give you more then enough of strips. Even though you will not have ot use all strips (I can guarantee you that), you will still be cheaper of because of the premium fare on the bus.
These cards can be bougth at Schiphol Plaza in the book-shop and at the train desks. Your hotel might also sell them.

If the weather is bad you might want to stop at “Aalsmeerderbrug” (line 198 only). A few stops further from “Aalsmeerderweg”. There you will find the largest aviation store in Europe, or so they claim. Whether that claim is justified or not, it is huge! Get of at the bus stop, and look for an old windmill on your left. It won’t have the spinner anymore, but it will have the shop! And mind the steps when walking down the embankment, they are steep and can be slipery!

To take the car to the spot (from schiphol plaza/car rentals), just follow the signs to parking P30. Do not got there, but follow the road. At the end of the road go to the left. The first road on the left is the Aalsmeerderweg. Go in there and you will find the spot. Parking is free. To go to the aviation shop, you should not go left into the Aalsmeerderweg, but continue the road. Before the bridge you will find the shop on the left. You will lilkely only see a decapitated old windmill. Don’t ask me for directions to a parking spot, don’t know!

Going to bed now, have to get up 5 hours from now to go to work. DOH

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By: Duesseldwarf - 20th August 2003 at 23:33

Originally posted by dan330
Great shots! I’m a particular fan of action shots so I have a few favourites.
Whats the 747 behind the KLM F70 taking off?

Could it be Martinair – do they still have the 747’s? :confused:

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By: Woundsinger - 20th August 2003 at 23:29

Excellent shots tenthije..

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By: dan330 - 20th August 2003 at 22:37

Great shots! I’m a particular fan of action shots so I have a few favourites.
Whats the 747 behind the KLM F70 taking off?

Could you post the directions to the runway spot if possible?
I’m heading over myself for photography on September 2, been before but stayed on the observation deck which is pretty poor for photos really, would like a few action shots this time!

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By: tenthije - 20th August 2003 at 22:18

Thanks for all your remarks! Appreciate it a lot!

kurmitz28
Well done on the jumping 737

Well, this one was merely a lucky shot. I did not know in advance it would be bumping. I just clicked the button and due to the shutter lag I got myself this bumping plane. Still love this shot though!

robbelc
I am heard about the McDonalds viewing area,near my hotel(ETAP) is this any good?

I do not know the hotel. I do know the McDonalds spot though! In the very early morning it is okay. Rather soon though the sun will be facing you. If you are on a registration hunt this may not be a problem, if you are coming for pictures this is a mayor problem.
Another disadvantage of the MacDonalds spot is that it is not always used. In fact, quite often it is not used because some of the approach paths go over Amsterdam. Its all about noise abatement at Schiphol, planes come here at a distant 2nd. This runway is only used when the wind comes from the West/East. For landings (wind from west) the planes come by close enough. For take-offs (wind from east) this spot is useless. The planes are way to high up.

You’d be better of going to the Kaagbaan, runway 06/24. This is the spot where most of the pics above where made from. It is accesible by public transportation, provided you do not mind to walk the last bit. At 15 to 20 minutes the walk is rather long, but well worth it! The bus will take you 15 minutes so the total travel time from Schiphol center is about half an hour one way!
Oh, and this spot is in the middle of nowhere. If it starts raining, you need to take a leak or are hungry/thirsty you are on your own. A mobile snack shack comes over during the lunch hour for people working in that area!
This runway is virtually always in use. Therefore it is quite popular. I have never seen fewer then 30 people there, mind you, I live rather far away and only go when I know the weather will be favourable!

If you require (bus) directions just e-mail me. If I have the day of I might even join you!

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By: robbelc - 20th August 2003 at 21:57

Great photos I am off there in October for a weekend using some free BMI flights. Where did you take the runway shots from? I am heard about the McDonalds viewing area,near my hotel(ETAP) is this any good? The deck is only open 9-5 while I am over so hoping to use the McDonalds area a lot.
Like the Iran Air,something I am looking forward to, I have only seen one,bet they send the same one in when I am there!

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By: kurmitz28 - 20th August 2003 at 21:15

excellent pics, thats the first tiem ive seen the Yak-42… a very nice looking a/c.

Well done on the jumping 737,

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By: A330Crazy - 20th August 2003 at 20:46

Ditto with what LBA just said! Top class shots Peter. Like the last one best, the YAK-42, an aircraft that is not very often seen in this forum.

Thanks matey. 🙂

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