An end to flying at Duxford?

I have pasted the link to make comments about the proposal on the Duxford village website. Please can i urge others to help stop this ridiculous development by visiting the site and posting their views. You may need to sign up to enable a comment to be left..

http://www.duxfordvillage.com/df/comment.php?comment.news.44

Maybe I should have set “get your specs on” – the part you failed to include in the quote was rather small – “That will be the view of some tossers in the local council…” and my erroneous spelling of aeroplane was explained a couple of posts later.
Maybe you missed that in your rush to chastise me?

And just for the record it’s not my view. I fully appreciate the role of museums, maybe why I am a volunteer at Duxford.
I also have a grasp of the whole Global Warming argument, having read quite a bit on the topic. So, if it’s OK with you, I’ll devote the time reading something new…

I am suitably rebuked!! And feel free to read as the mood takes you.:o

Maybe I should have set “get your specs on” – the part you failed to include in the quote was rather small – “That will be the view of some tossers in the local council…” and my erroneous spelling of aeroplane was explained a couple of posts later.
Maybe you missed that in your rush to chastise me?

And just for the record it’s not my view. I fully appreciate the role of museums, maybe why I am a volunteer at Duxford.
I also have a grasp of the whole Global Warming argument, having read quite a bit on the topic. So, if it’s OK with you, I’ll devote the time reading something new…

Get a sense of humour……….:rolleyes:

Well actually, I have or so my friends tell me, so I apologise for missing the “joke” in your post.:p

And “a few dusty airoplanes(sic)” will have no affect whatosoever in destroying the planet. Read some books old chum and you might learn something.

Get a sense of humour……….:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Bob;1478497]Houses are more important than a few dusty old airplanes. People have to live somewhere and the flying airoplanes for pleasure is all helping to destroy the planet with global warming.

What a fatuously naive contribution. The real arguments are about the need for housing and its planning. Our population is growing through immigration not through indiginent family growth. And anyone still with an unblinkered objective view of the MMGW debate can see that the scientific basis for it is slender if not unjustified. And “a few dusty airoplanes(sic)” will have no affect whatosoever in destroying the planet. Read some books old chum and you might learn something.

Our esteemed Airfield Manager told a recent Parish Council meeting that the corridor of land leading to runway 24 is now ‘protected’ and cannot be built on. I hope this is more effective than SSSI status! The ‘development’ area did not infringe on the 24 approach.

During the protests about a motorway service area it was he as member of the parish council (planning) told us residents to be pro-active with the planners. An idea was put forward for a relief road with lovely green areas, trees and flowers. Guess what, the road is still there, no trees or flowers, just 800 – 900 houses.

Houses at Duxford

The proposed ‘development’ at Duxford is an idea from the agents for the landowner, Gonville and Caius College. They have to persuade the College to fund and pursue it.

Our esteemed Airfield Manager told a recent Parish Council meeting that the corridor of land leading to runway 24 is now ‘protected’ and cannot be built on. I hope this is more effective than SSSI status! The ‘development’ area did not infringe on the 24 approach.

I am presenting the above for clarification, not because Duxford residents welcome the prospect of being swallowed up by urban sprawl or are complacent about the continued operation of our historic site.

I could be wrong but I thought that the Northstowe development has been put on indefinate hold (RAF Oakington airfield area) and that the new developments in North Arbury (Cambridge) and St Neots have been stopped until such time as the economy improves, so why do we need this new development when the others don’t currently warrant further expense? I guess they are just trying to get the permissions and they leave it dormant for a bit?

If the country had been run by people who thought like some of those posting here, we wouldn’t have any aviation heritage to worry about. We’d still be ploughing the fields with horses & most of our children would have died from disease.
I am sure there is room for the village to expand without flying at the airfield having to stop, as long as there is proper communication between all parties.

Moggy waves his magic wand and…..

http://www.airfields.org.uk/

Must admit though, it is looking a little moribund

Only involved with active sites.

I would suggest an ACTION FOR AERODROMES group, one that gives advice, collates information and distributes campaign material to MPs and local councils. The group would be active and couldn’t be bought out by any developer. But such an idea would probably be shot down in flames. SEE BELOW.

Moggy waves his magic wand and…..

http://www.airfields.org.uk/

Must admit though, it is looking a little moribund

Possibly won’t affect anything at all, plenty of buissier (and noiser) airfields than Duxford have housing under the approach.

Wait until they shove up a tower block!!!!:D

It’s really difficult to comment on Duxford without repeatedly going over old ground.

We are obviously in a minority – those of use who care passionately about our aviation heritage. That won’t change. We do need a voice – one not compromised by conflict of interest. We need to get our message across.

Regarding the need for housing in the UK. There is a clear need, but one that will never be met. Simply put, there are two housing sectors in the UK: one based on NEED and one based on GREED. Guess which one will always come out on top? When I mean greed, I mean an industry that drip feeds houses onto the market to artificially keep property prices high. Yes you can make a profit from building affordable houses, but that isn’t as profitable as building mid-range properties.

Taking out of the equation the one million empty properties there are in the UK, one reason why we need so many expensive houses is to keep the economy going on an upwards direction. That takes precedence over need or affordability.

Regarding places like Duxford and Upwood and that place in the north, my argument or persuasion has always been sympathetic redevelopment. This means new houses while utilising existing structures.

People love AMQs, they always sell and there is always a queue to buy them (some have been known to sleep in tents waiting to buy). Accommodation blocks are an enigma for me, in that it doesn’t take an expert to realise their full potential. Take for example your average H-Block – that can easily be converted into eight spacious apartments. I was recently told that in East Yorkshire such an apartment if done properly would go for around £150k. That’s £1.2m for a structure that already exists and which wouldn’t be problematic in securing planning permission. Simply put we are dealing with mind set when it comes to development.

If they need to build houses at Duxford why not in an area that embraces the airfield (and not strangles it), making it a selling point? Mind set: that’s the biggest obstacle when it comes to the way our country is shaped. Being creative in planning doesn’t exist.

Regarding Duxford. If I thought that the end of flying would make a difference (make people realise how important our aerodromes are), then I would say bring it on, making people sit up and shout and scream and have sleepless nights. But as I’ve mentioned before, we are in a minority with no voice.

I would suggest an ACTION FOR AERODROMES group, one that gives advice, collates information and distributes campaign material to MPs and local councils. The group would be active and couldn’t be bought out by any developer. But such an idea would probably be shot down in flames. SEE BELOW.

How many of you that have posted have children? How many have more than one, or even two? Where are they going to live? The simple fact is we all have too many offspring,

That’s perculiar!!!!
Point #1
I’m sure that this ‘wonderful’ administration we are currently saddled with keep telling us that this country is at risk because we are becoming an older aged population and that there will not be enough young people earning enough money for the country to keep paying for the older generations etc etc?
Please correct me if I am wrong!!!!!!!

this is a small country,

Excellent!!!!! You have managed to observe a very good point there.
Point #2
This is critical as we just do not have enough space and yet again this ‘wonderful’ administration we are currently saddled with don’t even want to put a cap on the population rise.

forget all that right wing stuff about too many immigrants, they form only a part of the population..

So easily and simplistically covered.
Point #3
We unfortunately have too many people from all over the world coming to live here on these very small islands (see point #2)
So take Point #3 minus the misguided and incorrect claim you make in Point #1 means a constant increase in population with a resultant Point #4 in a land pressed for space in Point #2.

The fact that we are a modern, successful first world country means we breed like rabbits and the rabbit cubs survive. They need housing.

Point #4 Indeed they do need housing but the rest of this sentence is nothing more than a load of piffle!
Africa is generally considered to be a third world country, but yet they seem to sucessfully erm……………..”breed like rabbitts” and even with the poorer survival rate still means they have way way more than they can cope with! Just imagine if the survival rate was better?

If you live next to an airfield and moan then I have no sympathy
If you have more than two children and moan about housing estates I have no sympathy either.

I don’t and I don’t and so quite selfishly I can say Neither do I!

what? Me?
No, made the concsious decision not to have any as there were enough in the world
Never regretted itt

Your choice and sadly a missed opportunity to enjoy creating and helping grow the pilots and engineers of the future!!!!

I sincerely hope this development gets scrapped.
On the other hand, one has to grant Grovesnor Developments persistance with all the other reasons and excuses that they have had their previous applications turned down on, where they then pick themselves up again and dream up another reason to justify building something on this plot of land, whatever it may be.
There is barely any mention of the airfield in any of the official planning application documentation and so anybody reading it without the actual knowledge of the area could be forgiven for not being aware of the airfields existence.
There is even an element relating to nearby historic significance and again the airfield get no mention, yet historicly significant it is!!!!

Bomberboy

I thought this thread was about a potential threat to the use of Duxford airfield……….???

Planemike

It is,in my little area,RAF Oakington [ok it’s disused] is going to be turned into a new town,it has been muted around that Marshalls in Camb COULD be turned into housing if Marshall re locates,Duxford will be affected if planning permission is granted.
Airfields are a soft option for development ,big open areas ,possible housing on there ,roads around the areas.

Possibly won’t affect anything at all, plenty of buissier (and noiser) airfields than Duxford have housing under the approach.

I thought this thread was about a potential threat to the use of Duxford airfield……….???

Planemike

It is, the potential threat to flying at DX is down to house building, which in turn is dictated by the expansion of the population, which is predicted to grow by 4.4 million in the next 6 years, 2.1 million from immigration alone(source) the Daily mail…….. sorry …….The Office for National Statistics (probably some jumped up right wing mob, afterall they do have the word National in their name)

I thought this thread was about a potential threat to the use of Duxford airfield……….???

Planemike

Well no -one really knows how many are coming in,it’s alot more than they will admit to.I hear eastern european voices in most places i go to now,much more than the old local dialect.
I would also point out that many people who voluntarily leave the UK do so for a better life and are allowed to emigrate away into other countries because they already have money/skills which allow them into other countries,the ones coming in here are generally not in such good standing and need to be homed,benefits etc etc.
Hardly a fair comparison.