ANA ORDERS 50 BOEING 7E7s!!

A couple of ANA 7E7 images from Boeing..

Their A330’s have proved disapointing on the domestic schedules, so they’re switching them to the international schedule.

I’m just curious as to which categorie they have been disappointing?

Time will tell I guess for QANTAS. But they could very well just end up ordering more A330s.

quite possible.

We’ll need to see what the performance figures are like for the 7e7 once the prototype start plying the skies. Perhaps if the figures exceed boeings estimates (which usually happens) QF could change their minds.

Time will tell I guess for QANTAS. But they could very well just end up ordering more A330-200s.

KabirT, exactly. If you read the artcile I posted in this thread earlier you will see how the 7E7 will open up more daily European routes for QF flights.. This will have a major effect on tourism here in reverse as well, which is my profession. Indeed growth! 🙂

Well, QF just release a statment saying they are not currently interested in the 7E7 as they have the aircraft they need right now.

Their A330’s have proved disapointing on the domestic schedules, so they’re switching them to the international schedule.

As they already operate the Boeing 747 on the Kangaroo route and make good money from it, there is no need for the the 7E7 there.

yes Qantas could be a potential customer….not for replacing aircrafts but simply growth.

KabirT, exactly. If you read the artcile I posted in this thread earlier you will see how the 7E7 will open up more daily European routes for QF flights.. This will have a major effect on tourism here in reverse as well, which is my profession. Indeed growth! 🙂

It was in jest.

Hope I didn’t offend you, it was not intended so

ah not at all….its just 2 am here and i am desperate need of sleep and still have work left….tend to get cranky at night. Please excuse me for that.

It was in jest.

Hope I didn’t offend you, it was not intended so

uh! the plural for Aircraft is AIRCRAFT…… No blooming S!!!

cheers for the correction but really no need to be that picky.

It is a REAL shame ANA have closed down their Australian operations… 🙁

I think the reason they did was because Ansett was using a 747 on the route, and that was probably sufficient capacity for ANA plus the other Star members for the SYD-NRT run. If it was doing well, I can’t understand why they would just discontinue service. Why ANA has not re-established service is a mystery to me. Ansett disappearead long ago and that left no Star carrier doing the SYD-NRT run. With Asiana, you could funnel them through ICN, but that still leaves you no non-stop options.

uh! the plural for Aircraft is AIRCRAFT…… No blooming S!!!

When i first saw this news i thought it was a joke. I did my research and it turns out to be true (darnit!). Well, very well done, Boeing. Its not another SST flop project to flaunt off boeing’s capability to make all sorts of planes, then. Hopefully, for the industries sake, more airlines – notably JAL, Emirates, Qantas and Singapore Airlines will order the type.

yes Qantas could be a potential customer….not for replacing aircrafts but simply growth.

When i first saw this news i thought it was a joke. I did my research and it turns out to be true (darnit!). Well, very well done, Boeing. Its not another SST flop project to flaunt off boeing’s capability to make all sorts of planes, then. Hopefully, for the industries sake, more airlines – notably JAL, Emirates, Qantas and Singapore Airlines will order the type.

quite a big order for somthing that hasnt even been made yet let alone fly!!!!

Whoops! Correction! I said Boring, not Boeing!

Wonder what it will be like flying on them. I bet not all that Boring’s advertised.

A great moment in Aviation history. This fantastic news made my day. Hopefully more orders soon…

ANA will announce its engine choice for the 7E7 at a later date. It will select from the General Electric GENX, and the Trent 1000 engine from Rolls Royce.

What, Pratts are not an option! INCONCEIVABLE!! 😮

Singapore could be interested but i dont know, they seem to have a nicely balanced fleet at the moment. SQ maybe interested in the shorter range version of the 7E7 though.

Great News!

It is a REAL shame ANA have closed down their Australian operations… 🙁

This was in The Australian newspaper on April 23rd.

7E7 Boeing’s new load star

By Geoffrey Thomas

April 23, 2004

WHILE the new Boeing 7E7 may lack the air show excitement of Boeing’s shelved Sonic Cruiser, it has the potential to reshape the airline industry.

Boeing has been refining the design and its capabilities over the past year and this month increased the range of the aircraft and also firmed up on the short-range model.

What is exciting airlines is that for the first time an aircraft that can economically carry 217 passengers 15,700km nonstop between Sydney and New York, or London and Perth, will be a possibility.

At the same time the numbers are looking positive on the short-range version, which is being optimised for ranges such as Sydney-Perth. That aircraft would carry 289 passengers in a dual-class configuration and could fly 6500km.

Boeing expects to announce the first orders for the 7E7 shortly, with All Nippon Airways, Emirates, Singapore Airlines and leasing companies Gecas and ILFC expected to launch the aircraft. Deliveries would start in 2008.

A major attraction of the 7E7 for Qantas is its unprecedented flexibility and capability to take on Emirates and Singapore Airlines on European routes.

Qantas operates only 747-400s with 400-seat capacity to Europe, and as most of the cities in Europe cannot support a daily 747 from Australia, the airline only serves London, Frankfurt and Paris.

Emirates, on the other hand, operates to 18 destinations in Europe through its hub in Dubai, giving the airline a significant advantage.

The 7E7, with its smaller load, would change all that for Qantas. Operating through the Singapore hub, destinations such as Zurich, Rome, Munich, Athens and Amsterdam would be viable.

Qantas is not expected to be a launch customer but analysts suggest that it may order the 7E7 later this year or take some from leasing companies.

Keys to the 7E7’s capability relate to the aircraft’s engine, new systems, materials and revolutionary production processes.

Earlier this month Boeing selected engine offerings from General Electric Aircraft Engines and Rolls-Royce for the 7E7. GE will supply the GE Next Generation engine, a derivative of its GE90 engine used on the 777, while Rolls-Royce will supply the Trent 1000 – the latest version of a family of engines powering numerous wide-body types.

This is a major step forward for leasing companies, which would be able to lease 7E7s to airlines and swap engines to suit the airline’s fleet requirements. But the engine makers have a demanding set of requirements to meet.

The real surprise for airline executives is the pricing of the 7E7.

Boeing has quoted a price of just $US120 million ($165 million) – the same as a 767-300ER – based on massive savings from new production techniques gleaned from experience in building new military fighters.

Boeing Commercial Airplanes president and chief executive Alan Mulally claims that the assembly of the 7E7 could be reduced to just three days. This is a far cry from the current 10 days for the 737.

Key to that improvement is the delivery by suppliers of built-up components rather than thousands of parts – a process that was introduced at Boeing over the past five years.

The aircraft will break new ground in simplicity of systems, saving several tonnes in weight.

The 7E7 will be the most “international” aircraft Boeing has ever built, something that has caused US unions heartache. For the first time the French will supply the undercarriage for a Boeing commercial aircraft. In a twist the US will supply the Airbus A380’s undercarriage.

While simplicity is the focus on the 7E7, in the cockpit it is advanced technology that is winning.

Rockwell Collins’ new MultiScan WXR-2100 weather radar, introduced by Qantas, was a major factor in winning the supply of the 7E7’s cockpit displays, communications and surveillance systems.

Introduced in November 2000 by Qantas on its 747-400ERs, the radar automatically adjusts weather detection parameters for a number of variations and uses advanced radar technologies to adjust the data returns.

It also predicts how high the tops of storms will be. According to Qantas pilots, the radar is a huge improvement in protection from encounters with turbulence.

7E7 passengers will sit in a cabin that looks more like a set from Star Trek. Boeing has also added huge windows to enhance the feeling of spaciousness.

However, the best news for passengers is the increase in humidity from the current 5 per cent to 35 per cent, made possible by a revolutionary fuselage.

This, combined with a reduction in the pressurisation altitude from 8000ft to 6000ft, will result in a dramatic reduction in jetlag.

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I wonder who the next customer will be? Any bets? 🙂