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Ancient flight / Reg help.

Hello all.
This is a very long shot, but I know there are some resourcefull people on this forum. Ssome, I dare say, are old enough to perhaps even have this particular flight and reg in their books!

I’m looking for the reg of a Monarch 757. One which took me to Florida in 1994.
It was an early morning flight on June 10 1994, that was a cold and damp Friday.
I can no longer recall the flight number, but from memory I think it was the only 757 Florida bound that morning.
Departure was between 0730 and 0900.

Can anyone help?
Theres no particular reason for wanting to know, other than its realy been annoying me lately.

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By: pogno - 9th April 2008 at 09:56

An individual aircraft can lose its ETOPS certification for a number of reasons, a component change for example, with some systems being considered more critical than others, fuel indication for example. The first half hour of a flight can sometimes be used to revalidate the rating ie if it works OK during that time its considered fixed, if it doesnt you turn round.
Another reason may be a defect that is being carried until decent downtime allows it to be fixed, say for tank entry, this could limit its ETOPS ability or nulify it completely.
An operator may choose some aircraft to be none ETOPS within the fleet for cost reasons.

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By: SOFTLAD - 9th April 2008 at 08:51

Thats not strictly the case. For example when Airtours had a fleet of 6 757’s only two of them were ETOPS rated. Its not just a general certificate issued to an aircraft type. The aircraft also has to be fitted out with the correct slide rafts and life rafts if that makes sense ?

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By: Newforest - 7th April 2008 at 16:41

But were all those eight ETOPS rated ? Might narrow down the search a bit if they wern’t.

ETOPS as a legal requirement can be made as a ‘Type approval for an aircraft’. This would be made by the manufacturer before introduction to service, but the DC-10 would probably predate this option.

ETOPS can also be issued as an ‘Operational certification for an airline’. So assuming that Laker had this certificate, I think it would apply to all the aircraft, as long as they were similar models.

Edit. Ignore all reference to DC-10 in this reply, thinking about the Glasgow thread at the same time!

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By: Bmused55 - 7th April 2008 at 12:32

Good point!

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By: SOFTLAD - 7th April 2008 at 08:58

But were all those eight ETOPS rated ? Might narrow down the search a bit if they wern’t.

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By: Newforest - 6th April 2008 at 21:47

You have a choice of eight, not much consolation, but better than the seventeen that Monarch have operated. G-MOND, MONE, MONB, MONC, DAJB, MONJ, MONK and MCKE.

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