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Pretty heavy duty looking armored glass and framework. any ideas??

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By: Peter - 23rd April 2010 at 00:45

Thanks Alan, it looks really close to how this would be installed. I tried a search for cockpit pictures of the sabre loong down from above or in front looking back to id the gunsught but no such luck. Thanks again!!

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By: WebPilot - 22nd April 2010 at 19:56

I think you have the right of it there. The patent for the A4 reads:

AN AIRCRAFT GUNSIGHT INCLUDING A PIVOTALLY MOUNTED REFLECTOR PLATE

The part clearly has a pilot mount. The gunsight was a heavy bit of kit and one of the things that Korean era US pilots complained about with their heavily laden machines trying to deal with the nimble Migs. I heard of these being stripped out in an attempt to even the playing field and replaced with a simple fixed point sighting reference.

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By: Alan Clark - 22nd April 2010 at 18:12

I am certain that it is a Sabre’s gun sight reflector.

The link below shows a stripped out cockpit and you can see there the stainless pins would sit and there appears to be a catch or similar where there is notch at the sharp end of the triangle.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran—Air/North-American-F-86F/1454098/L/&tbl=&photo_nr=10&sok=&sort=&prev_id=1454099&next_id=1454097

And I think this clinches it,

http://www.36thfbs.com/a-4_gun_sight_on_f-86f_sabre.htm

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By: Peter - 22nd April 2010 at 15:43

Thansk for the help guys, hopefully someone can pin it down to what it is and aircraft type.

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By: DC Page - 22nd April 2010 at 04:19

Alan,

If you’re right about this being a Canadair part then could this be a camera port from a reconnaissance version of a Canadair Sabre? I don’t know what the Canadian version would be called, but a North American version would be a RF-86A or RF-86F, and they had 3 camera ports on the underside of the fuselage. When I first saw this part I thought of the RF-84 Thunderflash because we have 2 of them on display near me, but after looking at some pictures I decided that wasn’t it. Certainly looks to be the right size for a camera port.

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By: Alan Clark - 22nd April 2010 at 00:49

The inspectors stamp looks like a Canadair one (I have only ever known them use that stylised C), and 172 ##### is seen on Sabre parts, so now out with the diagrams of Sabres.

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By: DC Page - 22nd April 2010 at 00:41

Reminds me of this pic of a B-17E’s tail gunner position, but it appears to be from another American bomber. It’s not a B-24, B-25, B-26, or TBF Avenger either.

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By: Peter - 22nd April 2010 at 00:39

Thanks Tony
Andy it could be although not sure. Too big for a hud display. Would be great to find out what it is!

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By: AndyG - 22nd April 2010 at 00:18

US part number, not sure which airframes.

Is it a part of a turret fire control system?

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By: Rocketeer - 21st April 2010 at 23:55

There are some numbers on both sides new pics attached. Almost forgot, there is only one piece of glass the triangles openings are not glassed at all.

turret glass methinx

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By: Peter - 21st April 2010 at 22:26

There are some numbers on both sides new pics attached. Almost forgot, there is only one piece of glass the triangles openings are not glassed at all.

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By: bazv - 21st April 2010 at 20:34

Any ID numbers Peter ??

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By: Peter - 21st April 2010 at 15:30

Not sure that is the only pic he sent me..

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By: inkworm - 21st April 2010 at 15:19

Is it the right way up?

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By: Phantom Phil - 21st April 2010 at 15:16

Is it not part of the aiming devise from an aircraft gun turret? On either side are a pivot bar to move horizontally to vertically!?:confused:

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By: Red Hunter - 21st April 2010 at 14:39

Now I’ve enlarged it – didn’t work last time. That is meaty glass, for sure. Definitely not a HUD unit. But what…………?

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By: Peter - 21st April 2010 at 14:34

There are two triagular sections of what appears to be armored glass fitted. The central triangle section is missing,

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By: Red Hunter - 21st April 2010 at 14:32

The metalwork seems a bit heavy for a HUD. Are the two triangular sections glazed, or is it just framework? – it is not easy to see from the photo.

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By: Peter - 21st April 2010 at 14:29

Yes no prizes for the wheel id. Serious bit of kit this framework and glass though?

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By: Red Hunter - 21st April 2010 at 14:28

And I’ll bet there area few here who could identify the wheel it is leaning against………..

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