Any Derelict Cessna 182's In The UK?

Yes it is; no wings struts… amongst others

That’s a 210 isn’t it?

…well, this is a Brazilian Cessna 182. It is not wrecked, well, not yet… :dev2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKoYp1SCyOA

I said possibly because it does not mean an aircraft removed from service has had the engine shock loaded or damaged. As for the interior etc, it rarely is damaged unless the thing is rolled up into a ball, or scattered to the wind like confetti, tin wise the prices are reasonable, heck a sheet of 12ft by 4ft 2024-t3-.40 will cost you about £300. A lot of the the cost is purely labour as I said….. I rebuild and repair these things day in day out, reskinning, rebuilding and resparing wings and fuselages hold no worries to me. I know the costs involved. Quoting costs new is pointless because as I said if the engine is ok it will simply be a metal work job, and the labour to knock out a skin or rib is about the same, the only variance is the thickness, same goes for the labour to nail it in….. For what it is worth when Cessna brought out the new C172R and 182S, they looked at the costing for the 152 which would have been the ideal choice as they haven’t really been bettered, but the costing came in similar for the airframe and no one would pay 172 prices for a new 152, so it was dropped. BTW, You would be surprised at how much a wing can look damaged to spring out and not be as bad as one thought when the skin is unzipped.

No “possibly” about it. The 182 has a much more powerful, expensive engine…as one might well expect of a power plant with more than twice the horsepower and half again as many cylinders.

A quick internet check will show a factory overhaul cost for a 152 Lycoming 0235 with new cylinders is $17,000…an overhauled Continental 0470 is $35,000. Now, certain shops do different things on overhauls, so it’s never quite apples/apples comparison, but the trend is certainly clear.

Also, I’d certainly expect 182 airframe parts prices to be more. IIRC, the Aerobatic variants of the 150/152 used 182-like thicker skins, struts and ribs in order to gain the +6 and -3g certification. (Similarly, when Beech produced acrobatic versions of its F33 Bonanza it used “beefier” parts from its Travel Air or Baron light twin).

Finally, 182s are real transportation aircraft as opposed to the basic trainer 150/152s, so more and better avionics, as well as upgraded interior furnishings.

To put it another way, the C CLass Mercedes is different than the S Class, same is true here.

If you still think a 182 is just a 152 with a mild fuselage stretch, compare their prices when new. In the 70s, a 150 sold for about $17,000. A 182 Skylane on the same period sold for $35,950 (per prices from “Wings of Cessna, Model 120 to the Citation III” by Edward Phillips).

G-ISEH C182R was blown over during a storm in March 2016 and badly damaged and now looks rather forlorn in the line up of withdrawn aircraft at North Weald. Ownership may have passed to the insurance company but it may be worth a try contacting its last registered owner, he has replaced it with another C182R G-BKKP.

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The only thing that could possibly vary that is the engine rebuild cost on the 182.

No “possibly” about it. The 182 has a much more powerful, expensive engine…as one might well expect of a power plant with more than twice the horsepower and half again as many cylinders.

A quick internet check will show a factory overhaul cost for a 152 Lycoming 0235 with new cylinders is $17,000…an overhauled Continental 0470 is $35,000. Now, certain shops do different things on overhauls, so it’s never quite apples/apples comparison, but the trend is certainly clear.

Also, I’d certainly expect 182 airframe parts prices to be more. IIRC, the Aerobatic variants of the 150/152 used 182-like thicker skins, struts and ribs in order to gain the +6 and -3g certification. (Similarly, when Beech produced acrobatic versions of its F33 Bonanza it used “beefier” parts from its Travel Air or Baron light twin).

Finally, 182s are real transportation aircraft as opposed to the basic trainer 150/152s, so more and better avionics, as well as upgraded interior furnishings.

To put it another way, the C CLass Mercedes is different than the S Class, same is true here.

If you still think a 182 is just a 152 with a mild fuselage stretch, compare their prices when new. In the 70s, a 150 sold for about $17,000. A 182 Skylane on the same period sold for $35,950 (per prices from “Wings of Cessna, Model 120 to the Citation III” by Edward Phillips).

I cannot help you but wish you luck with your search, just google airfields and use G-INFO to find owners etc but sure you already knew that! I have just done the same with an Aztec and its going well! Whats your plan for the 182 when you find one?

The other thing to bear in mind is a 182 having a higher residual value will often get rebuilt, where as a lower valued 152 probably won’t. After all rebuild costs are similar, the 182 simply having the odd extra foot of tin in it, labour costs which are the crippler will be similar in both cases. The only thing that could possibly vary that is the engine rebuild cost on the 182.

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You could give Mike Smart at Hampshire Aeroplane Co. Farley, a call on 07973-792712. He has a collection of potential graveyard applicants lying around. Not been for a year or two, so can’t be too sure of the current residents.

Good luck with your search.
The 182 is always popular, one of the seemingly few types you rarely see derelict. Here in the American west, it’s popular because of its extra hot/high performance over the entry-level 172s and most of the low wing Pipers.

For those of you here that don’t know, the 182 has a different airframe than the 172, both larger and stronger.

If you don’t find what you’re looking for, there are plenty of GA aircraft wrecking yards here, it would be easy to fill a container for you… 🙂

Try Paul

http://www.nalsonaviation.com/