December 25, 2007 at 7:41 pm
my question is, did 110 night fighters carry the 21cm morters seen on the day fighters that they put up to fight B-17/B24 raids? Rockets at night an obvious no-no, but did the 110’s carry big pods under the outer wings or was that just a day fighter load? – and also, I thought is was ME-110 not BF, something to do with design office? anyhow, have had a couple of glasses so don’t care on that, but the armament bugs me………. any takers or views? Thank you……….
By: JägerMarty - 28th December 2007 at 06:10
As to the ME/BF question, the 110 (along with the 108 and 109 etc) should be referred to as Bf110. This was because they were designed when the company was named Bayerische Flugzeugwreke AG (Bavarian Aircraft Factory). Those designed after the company became Messerschmitt AG are officially designated with the Me prefix. In reality, the 109 and 110 etc were frequently referred to as Me109, Me110 etc, both by the Allies and by the Germans themselves.
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By: wieesso - 26th December 2007 at 23:54
‘Rückblickfernrohr’
It was a device for fighter planes with a reticle to control external weapons from inside the cockpit.
http://www.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vernalek/Hist_Fotos.html
By: Rogier - 26th December 2007 at 21:27
Whilst on the subject. I think “Rückblickfernrohr” translates to something like rear pointing telescope or?
The unit seems to be SKG 210.
Any explanations welcome.
By: BSG-75 - 26th December 2007 at 09:45
that could be it then…
Thank you – imagine taking on a P-47 or P-51 with radar, external cannon, mortors – scary stuff. ME-110 was a fine but misused aircraft, gets a bad press like the JU-87 just from 1940. Hobbey master are putting out a 1/72 model next year, with and without radar. One to collect I think.:D
By: QldSpitty - 26th December 2007 at 09:22
Nightfighters…
Late in the war many of the front line Nightfighter units,amongst them the elite pilots were transfered to Defence of the Reich Staffels to help stop the endless flow of B24,s and B17,s during the day.Also there were bomber crews and others hastily retrained.You could find many of them with the rocket Mortars fitted,much to the disgust of the crews as they slowed the planes down considerably and made them an easier target again for roving P51,s.Many of the top pilots were wasted this way and eventually the luftwaffe was bled dry of it,s experienced crews.
By: BSG-75 - 26th December 2007 at 00:34
thank you
I was asking because I was set to spend out my xmas model zone vouchers on a BF-110 night fighter with the “tubes” – the use at night struck me as odd and without being banished to the other forum, it just struck me as odd that a night fighter would have rockets or morters
By: QldSpitty - 25th December 2007 at 21:26
Mortars
Only used during the day to break up the bomber formations.At night the launch flare would have seriously damaged the pilots night vision,plus place a big “I am here” sign for roving Mosquito,s to pick up on.
By: wieesso - 25th December 2007 at 20:27
…not an expert, but…
110 type number – Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM)
Bf110 manufacturer – Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG (official term)
Me110 constructer – Willy Messerschmitt
21cm morters Wgr.21
http://www.nexusboard.net/printthread.php?siteid=6365&threadid=296722&showpage=1&nx=5d9ea447033db0c98ad3745d547c6e16
Photo: Me110 with Wgr.21
By: Ant.H - 25th December 2007 at 20:18
As to the ME/BF question, the 110 (along with the 108 and 109 etc) should be referred to as Bf110. This was because they were designed when the company was named Bayerische Flugzeugwreke AG (Bavarian Aircraft Factory). Those designed after the company became Messerschmitt AG are officially designated with the Me prefix. In reality, the 109 and 110 etc were frequently referred to as Me109, Me110 etc, both by the Allies and by the Germans themselves.
As for the rockets, the WGr.21 rockets were only carried on daylight operations as far as I’m aware. It’s difficult to imagine what use they would be at night as they had to be aimed and fired from a considerable distance away from the target, ie you needed daylight and plenty of visibility. Besides, the 21’s main use was as a formation-breaker, making it easier to attack individual bombers with more conventional weapons. I can’t see how they would have been used against single bombers at night.