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Any modellers here?

Ive never been in an aeroplane.
Never been higher than mount Snowdon.
I love aircraft.
As a kid I used to build airfix models and stick em on my ceiling, mainly WWII fighters of course!
But it seems Airfix is for kids only, we dont do it anymore cos we’re grown up,right?
But is that true?
Are here any modellers on here ? (and Im not just talking plastic Airfix jobbies-Ive seen in the small ads of FP some very desirable die cast or wooden kits, but these must be phenonemally expensive!)

Should it be the domain of kids only, if so, I want my next child to be a son! 😉

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 24th October 2005 at 09:42

I like model aircraft making. I collect 1:72nd aircraft. I have about 60 Post WW2 aircraft, and the odd WW2 aircraft or so on top of my wardrobe waiting to get built.

I will be building a model air museum when I get some room to built it. I can’t wait. 🙂

Please feel free to send a message if you want to know what aircraft are planned for my model air museum.

James B

That’s a neat idea…I build a lot of 1:72 scale model aircraft although I do other scales also (WW2 mostly) although I haven’t thought of anything like that to do with them. Feel free to send me a list. I wish you all the best!!! 🙂

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 24th October 2005 at 09:33

That’s not really true…
At our club we have to get a flying licence, big aircraft or not.

Does this mean that all of the information I have is incorrect and needs ammending :confused: Please advise……..

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 24th October 2005 at 09:28

The British Model Flying Association (BMFA) has a number of certificates that you can attain, my club runs a training programme to take you up to BMFA ‘A’ rating, after which you are allowed to go and fly solo at the club. This is taken in 2 parts, an Oral safety test and a flight test involving take offs, landings and figure of 8s operated safely
In order to fly for public display you have to hold a ‘B’ Certificate which is basically a full aerobatic rating.
There are obviously instructor and examiner ratings as well.

Our club strictly adheres to all of these rules, especially as our club President is also President of the BMFA!!

Models larger than 20KG are considered as small aircraft under the ANO, and as such have to have a full inspection regime by the large Model association (LMA) during the build, and have to operate a series of observed flights before they are allowed to fly for public display

Unfortunately, I don’t think I have any clubs near me….last one I know of went under about 10 years ago……..I have not come upon this information before :confused: , as far as I was aware it is not 100% compulsary to have a licence for flying ALONE but is advised that a person should take lessons (I don’t do displays or anything like that so that doesn’t really matter). I would love to join a club and do all this but I cannot travel very far because I don’t drive.

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A FLYING CLUB ANYWHERE AROUND LLANDRINDOD WELLS THAT I COULD JOIN OR IS ANYONE STARTING A CLUB HERE or can you give me more information???

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By: James Barber - 23rd October 2005 at 00:04

I like model aircraft making. I collect 1:72nd aircraft. I have about 60 Post WW2 aircraft, and the odd WW2 aircraft or so on top of my wardrobe waiting to get built.

I will be building a model air museum when I get some room to built it. I can’t wait. 🙂

Please feel free to send a message if you want to know what aircraft are planned for my model air museum.

James B

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By: wessex boy - 21st October 2005 at 20:34

Unlike with being a commercial, military or private pilot, a RC model pilot is only “advised” to take flying lessons with a club although it is possible (and legal) to learn to fly by “trial and error” by flying alone (ie. the very expensive option – crash, crash and more crash) although the rules are slightly different for larger models. No licence (to the best of my knowledge) is needed for smaller models.

Model aircraft flights are governed more by geographical location (eg. are you flying in an area where regular RAF low flying exercises take place or within a flight zone regulated by Air Traffic Control?) It is necessary to find this out before flying.

The British Model Flying Association (BMFA) has a number of certificates that you can attain, my club runs a training programme to take you up to BMFA ‘A’ rating, after which you are allowed to go and fly solo at the club. This is taken in 2 parts, an Oral safety test and a flight test involving take offs, landings and figure of 8s operated safely
In order to fly for public display you have to hold a ‘B’ Certificate which is basically a full aerobatic rating.
There are obviously instructor and examiner ratings as well.

Our club strictly adheres to all of these rules, especially as our club President is also President of the BMFA!!

Models larger than 20KG are considered as small aircraft under the ANO, and as such have to have a full inspection regime by the large Model association (LMA) during the build, and have to operate a series of observed flights before they are allowed to fly for public display

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By: taylorman - 20th October 2005 at 08:30

Unlike with being a commercial, military or private pilot, a RC model pilot is only “advised” to take flying lessons with a club although it is possible (and legal) to learn to fly by “trial and error” by flying alone (ie. the very expensive option – crash, crash and more crash) although the rules are slightly different for larger models. No licence (to the best of my knowledge) is needed for smaller models.

Model aircraft flights are governed more by geographical location (eg. are you flying in an area where regular RAF low flying exercises take place or within a flight zone regulated by Air Traffic Control?) It is necessary to find this out before flying.

That’s not really true…
At our club we have to get a flying licence, big aircraft or not.

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By: Paulish - 19th October 2005 at 19:56

Vacform

Has anyone tried vacform kits such as those by Dynavector. They are supposed to be a little challenging.

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By: Larry66 - 18th October 2005 at 21:08

A few years back when I lived near Wolverhampton I used to go watch the local RC Club fly their planes in a field not far from my then home.
It was great to watch although a bit painful at times, especially when one guy brought out a beautiful Spitfire. It looked great in the air but unfortunatley the field was rather rough. This was fine for the ‘long legged’ models but the Spit just didnt have the ground clearance and ended up with its arse in the air and a buggered prop!

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 18th October 2005 at 11:56

Oops, sorry, I meant as in the pilot being radio controlled.
Do you have a CAA licence then? I merely ask out of ignorance of the complex rules governing piloting heavier than air machines.

Nope sorry, you were actually 😀

Unlike with being a commercial, military or private pilot, a RC model pilot is only “advised” to take flying lessons with a club although it is possible (and legal) to learn to fly by “trial and error” by flying alone (ie. the very expensive option – crash, crash and more crash) although the rules are slightly different for larger models. No licence (to the best of my knowledge) is needed for smaller models.

Model aircraft flights are governed more by geographical location (eg. are you flying in an area where regular RAF low flying exercises take place or within a flight zone regulated by Air Traffic Control?) It is necessary to find this out before flying.

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 18th October 2005 at 11:43

So, that time I told those chicks in the local that I was a pilot (when I still flew R/C models), I wasn’t talking a load of arse then?? :diablo:

No, you weren’t talking a load of arse. 🙂

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By: AFH10 - 17th October 2005 at 20:51

Technically speaking, anyone who controls a flying machine is classed as a pilot. This also counts for model aircraft which are classed as “small aircraft” by the Civil Aviation Authority in their booklet “CAP 658 Model Aircraft – A Guide to Safe Flying”. This means that aeromodellers are ‘pilots’.

Oops, sorry, I meant as in the pilot being radio controlled.
Do you have a CAA licence then? I merely ask out of ignorance of the complex rules governing piloting heavier than air machines.

So, that time I told those chicks in the local that I was a pilot (when I still flew R/C models), I wasn’t talking a load of arse then??

Nope sorry, you were actually 😀

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By: DazDaMan - 17th October 2005 at 16:44

Technically speaking, anyone who controls a flying machine is classed as a pilot. This also counts for model aircraft which are classed as “small aircraft” by the Civil Aviation Authority in their booklet “CAP 658 Model Aircraft – A Guide to Safe Flying”. This means that aeromodellers are ‘pilots’.

So, that time I told those chicks in the local that I was a pilot (when I still flew R/C models), I wasn’t talking a load of arse then?? :diablo:

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 17th October 2005 at 16:14

Technically speaking, anyone who controls a flying machine is classed as a pilot. This also counts for model aircraft which are classed as “small aircraft” by the Civil Aviation Authority in their booklet “CAP 658 Model Aircraft – A Guide to Safe Flying”. This means that aeromodellers are ‘pilots’.

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By: AFH10 - 17th October 2005 at 15:59

I am a Radio Controlled Spitfire Pilot and am still very fond of Airfix model kits and I do not believe that they are just for kids. I also enjoy building model railways. How about you?

😮 I’ve seen radio controlled cars, I’ve seen radio controlled aircraft but I’ve never seen a radio controlled Spitfire pilot!

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By: DazDaMan - 17th October 2005 at 11:50

Nice, but I loved the 18ft Beaufighter I saw five years ago – that was a sweeet bit of model! I have photos to emphasize how big the damn thing was!

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By: dragline - 17th October 2005 at 11:33

what about toys for the boys here built by gordon nickols but sadly have around 40 flights crashed and was destroyed http://www.gordon-nichols.com/b52-big-buff/b52-photos-1.asp , dragline dab

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By: Spitfire Pilot - 17th October 2005 at 10:21

I was joking about not being able to afford them. Yeah I probably will try again some time.

As long as you were joking…(I wasn’t annoyed incase I sounded like it – I think I did a bit). Good to hear 🙂

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By: Larry66 - 13th October 2005 at 12:41

Thanks for the mini lesson Daz, now googling a Focke-Wulf 190

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By: DazDaMan - 13th October 2005 at 12:35

A better explanation might be found here:

http://www.deltaweb.co.uk/spitfire/fite_cnt.htm

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By: DazDaMan - 13th October 2005 at 12:32

Faster in level flight, better roll rate.

Clipped wings were introduced (among other things) on the Spitfire V to try to counter the Focke-Wulf 190 at low level. It wasn’t unsuccessful, but a large number of Spits still fell to their guns.

There’s a lot more to it than that, but Googling doesn’t help much. A look through the books would be better for a fuller explanation.

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