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Any writers on here? (stuck on a point of style)

Trying to write a novel, and decided to change from putting numbers in words (ie ” She was Twenty-six”) to a more simple “She was 26.” Looks much neater in most cases, except when I come to a “million.” For example, one character has to say something about “Millions & Millions of them” but if I stick to my new rule “1,000,000s and 1,000,000s of them” looks very clumsy. Do I need to be consistent with one style, or can I mix them? Not the biggest problem facing the World I know, but I’d appreciate any thoughts. Ta.

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By: trumper - 4th February 2014 at 19:45

Great minds think alike 🙂

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By: John Green - 4th February 2014 at 14:08

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Trumper

Don’t steal my thunder! I wanted to write that !

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By: trumper - 4th February 2014 at 09:32

I’ll ask my school’s Head of English, with whom I share an office, what she thinks when she arrives later.

So when she responds with ” yeah,wot u want ,innit ” 🙂 you know you are onto a winner 🙂

Good luck ,it will be interesting to see what her take is on it.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 4th February 2014 at 06:00

I’ll ask my school’s Head of English, with whom I share an office, what she thinks when she arrives later.

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By: kev35 - 3rd February 2014 at 21:31

Not a writer either but you can be sure that anything you do ever get published will be criticised in one way or another.

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By: Moggy C - 3rd February 2014 at 21:17

http://www.grammarbook.com/numbers/numbers.asp

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By: Mr Creosote - 3rd February 2014 at 19:57

Thanks for the replies, folks; never imagined there would be so much interest. Can I just say “She was 26” was a purely hypothetical example to simply illustrate the point I was trying to make, and not an actual line from my book. I decided to change to numerals because there is one scene (an argument over someone’s age and the events in their life) where the unavoidable amount of hyphenated words (eg “Twenty-Six”) in such a short passage looked very untidy and clumsy.
Not sure I can really look to Shakespeare for guidance either, because of course language and styles have changed over the years; he may never have written “26” but then again I’d never write “Wherefore art thou?”
I think sticking rigidly to either all words or all numerals is likely to bring problems of its own, and the answer is to use your own feeling for what is ‘right’ whilst trying to remain as consistent as possible.

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By: trumper - 3rd February 2014 at 17:49

“The two of them caught a number 43 bus down the Seven Sisters Road, ending up eventually at North Weald airfield where a Cessna 172 was lining up on runway two-eight”

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Absolutely.The number as a quantity could be written with numbers,the number as a specific reference of type,location could be written grammatically .

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By: charliehunt - 3rd February 2014 at 12:26

“Eventually you would use your own feeling for what was ‘right’ and end up with”….seems to sum up the answer to the OP’s question.

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By: snafu - 3rd February 2014 at 12:12

Trying to get in on the back of Fifty Shades of Grey thing, eh?;o)

Wouldn’t worry too much; the proof reader would hi-light any problems and the style editor (or whatever they are called) is paid to make that sort of decision. On the other hand if you are trying to publish it yourself…

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By: Derekf - 3rd February 2014 at 09:36

In the example you gave, you actually used the “‘Less then ten in figures, more than ten in numerals” rule and it seems to work. However if the wrting is to be factually accurate e.g. then you would need to pay attention to the details. If the street is called “Seven Sisters Road” then “7 Sisters” would be wrong. Calling it a Cessna One seven two would also be factually wrong as the type designation is Cessna 172. So as well as flow, accuracy helps a great deal too.
A quick peruse of some novels on the shelf show that there the use of small numbers as words , less than ten or maybe less than a hundred seems to be common.
117-year old would appear to be used rather than one hundred and seventeen year old but twenty six year old would be more common than 26-year old.
Ther are exceptions to all rules so it would be better to say there are seven 3-year olds rather than 7 3-year olds or the rather more clumsy seven three-year olds.

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By: Moggy C - 3rd February 2014 at 08:56

It would be utterly ridiculously to write out five hundred and twenty six thousand, three hundred and eight when 526,308 is easier to write and more importantly to understand.

But remember here the original question was about fiction.

There would be no reason I can think of to include that figure in a work of fiction as all facts and figures are totally under the control of the author. Assuming it was a story about a lottery win, then describing it as “just over half a million pounds” will get the meaning over better than the exact sum.

If I really had to include a figure of that precision for some obscure plot point then

She glanced down quickly at the cheque that she was now holding in her ever-so-slightly trembling hand.

£526,308

The figures danced before her eyes, she felt suddenly faint

It is about flow when writing a novel, there are no absolute rights and wrongs as again the author controls the style. So some arbritary rule like ‘Less then ten in figures, more than ten in numerals’ doesn’t work

“The 2 of them caught a number 43 bus down the 7 Sisters Road, ending up eventually at North Weald airfield where a Cessna 172 was lining up on runway 28”

works no better than

“The two of them caught a number forty-three bus down the Seven Sisters Road, ending up eventually at North Weald airfield where a Cessna One Seven Two was lining up on runway two-eight”

Eventually you would use your own feeling for what was ‘right’ and end up with

“The two of them caught a number 43 bus down the Seven Sisters Road, ending up eventually at North Weald airfield where a Cessna 172 was lining up on runway two-eight”

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By: charliehunt - 3rd February 2014 at 05:35

DITTO, DITTO, DITTO. Check out past great authors. Shakespeare, Dickens etc. Can’t ever recall seeing numbers in their scribblings, er scribeings.

With no disrespect to the OP are we in classic author territory here? I certainly wouldn’t use “scribblings” to describe their work.
But I take RpR’s aesthetic point.

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By: RpR - 3rd February 2014 at 04:25

My major was creative writing.

I do not know the context of the subject but “the twenty-six year old (girl or woman as context fits) …” or ” the girl was twenty-six…” is a smoother transition than “she was 26”.

She was 26 — sounds more like part of a list.
When writing fiction, flow is very important.

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By: Derekf - 2nd February 2014 at 23:15

In modern writing however it seems to be accepted to write out numbers less than 10 as words but greater than 10 as numerals. It would be utterly ridiculously to write out five hundred and twenty six thousand, three hundred and eight when 526,308 is easier to write and more importantly to understand. I write as part of my job and very rarely write out numbers as words.

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By: Deskpilot - 2nd February 2014 at 22:55

I write for a living. I would never dream of writing “She was 26”

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

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DITTO, DITTO, DITTO. Check out past great authors. Shakespeare, Dickens etc. Can’t ever recall seeing numbers in their scribblings, er scribeings.

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By: Moggy C - 2nd February 2014 at 22:22

I write for a living. I would never dream of writing “She was 26”

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

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By: charliehunt - 2nd February 2014 at 21:46

I don’t write professionally but I write and I read a great deal. My sense would be numerals for specific numbers and letters for general unspecific amounts or numbers, as in your example.

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By: MattCooke - 2nd February 2014 at 21:44

Not a writer, but I have an English Literature A Level , I think It’s perfectly acceptable to mix according to what is easier on the eye.

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