ARCo Lysander flies!

Hi All,
Just found this footage below via the ARCO Faceache page

What an incredible weekend at The Goodwood Revival !

We are very proud to bring home 2nd place for the Lizzie and 3rd place for the Blenheim in this year’s Freddie March Spirit of Aviation Concours and would like to extend a huge, heartfelt congratulations to Sarah Hanna and the rest of the MH434 team for the very well deserved 1st place!

Thank you to everyone who came to see us in the Freddie March arena over the three days! There will be some photos to drop later in the week but for now we just thought we’d try and distract you from any Monday blues with this short clip we captured of the Lizzie on her way down to Goodwood Aviation Airfield on Thursday afternoon… Enjoy!

#engineeredtoinspire — at The Goodwood Revival.

Geoff.

I remember seeing G-BCWL at Brian Woodfords small hanger at Chalmington back in around 1989-1991 (not completely sure of exact date) I was shown around it by George Burden who flew some of the aircraft in the collection. I know that they had quite a bit of trouble getting the Mercury running properly. They also had an Antonov An-2 parked outside on my visit.

Unfortunately, due to Kermit Weeks having owned both V9312 and V9545 (the one he still owns), there are a lot of photos on the web of V9545 that are incorrectly labeled as being V9312.

My apologies, when I tried to post my previous message (#17) the board showed a database error but I only just noticed that it did end up online. I thought it had disappeared in cyberspace. I had not read the two messages by JohnTerrell and David Burke at that point.

Thanks for clearing up the confusion between the two Lysanders everyone!

As for credits on photos, I do that with all my photos these days, only to find them reposted on Facebook with the line removed only days later. And I don’t want to plaster my name all over an image, so it’s a race I cannot win. Oh well…

se5a fan….its a good idea to place a credit line onto every pic you post on line, otherwise you risk them becoming orphan works, they wander the net and get shared again and again with no credit and a credit line makes it easier for any commercial user to contact you to agree fees.

No worries

Indeed, a credit would be super, but I did not know who the photographer is/was, which is why I did not post the image, but rather a link to address where it was to be found.

The only text to be found on the Yahoo generated image is some refererence to the worlds best photos of the Norwegian airforce, so it may be that someone else has copied and re-posted your picture.

I agree that wherever possible, photographers should be credited.

Would be nice to have a credit for my photo Propstrike. Cheers

Much is written about the Lysander and SOE, however,in terms of hours flown and lives saved there is the role of search and rescue.
This extract gives background
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QiyQDgAAQBAJ&pg=PP38&lpg=PP38&dq=Lysander+search+and+rescuer&source=bl&ots=zqO97Uk7rS&sig=4vdq2j2pCsTzLgQTjRxXSp9fWVI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1hIuUs5TdAhUrB8AKHSDUB_8Q6AEwCXoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=Lysander%20search%20and%20rescuer&f=false

It is G-BCWL in your photo Archer. Believe me I know as I’ve been in the company and around Duxford for a long long time and have intimate knowledge of V9312. The latter had no wood or fabric covering when we acquired it from Kermit and BCWL was actually painted by us here at Duxford into that scheme when we were operating it on behalf of Brian Woodford.

Hope this clarifies the issue.

Roobarb

I think that it is V9312 in my photo. I took that photo in March 2002 and according to the article trumper linked to, V9312 moved to ARCo in December 2003, via Fantasy of Flight. Also, if you compare the photo on V9312’s Warbird Registry page here: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/lizzieregistry/lizzie-v9312.html with mine, I can see some similarities.

Archer’s photo is of Lysander V9545, which Kermit Weeks still has (coded BA-C), which was G-BCWL when based/flying in the UK. It has not flown ever since being brought to the US. It spent a number of years on static display at the Florida Air Museum, but then four years ago Weeks had it removed from there and it has been disassembled in storage at Fantasy of Flight ever since.

The ARCo Lysander V9312 (G-CCOM), which has now just flown (for the first time since December 1944), was also owned for a time by Kermit Weeks, prior to ARCo acquiring it in 2003. From what I’ve read, no restoration work had ever been performed on it prior to ARCo acquiring it in 2003.

Unfortunately, due to Kermit Weeks having owned both V9312 and V9545 (the one he still owns), there are a lot of photos on the web of V9545 that are incorrectly labeled as being V9312.

The photograph looks very much like G-BCWL on arrival.

IIRC, the Weeks Lysander used to be owned by Wessex Aviation rather than ARCo (although ARCo operated it)? Fondly remember Lee Proudfoot’s sprightly displays in it back in the 90’s. It hasn’t flown since leaving the UK.

Congratulations again to everyone on V9312!

Archer I think you’ll find Kermit’s is a different one, I helped dismantle it at PPS for shipping to him and as far as I know he still has it.

That article states that it’s the Canadian example that’s for sale. The Sabena Old Timers foundation does have a partially restored Lodestar for sale but I cannot find anything recent about their Lysander.

Looks like the Sabinas old timers one is for sale so maybe 3 in formation one day could happen https://www.pressreader.com/uk/pilot/20180401/282432759631170

I took this photo at Kermit’s Fantasy of Flight in 2002, I guess this was V9312 before ARCo got their hands on it.

IM000827_resize by Jelle Hieminga, on Flickr

The other one was ARCo’s first Lysander, was it not? Sold to Kermit Weeks and, shock, hasn’t flown for quite a long time.

I am reminded of the amazing sight perhaps 20 years ago of THREE Lysanders in formation at Flying Legends.

Indeed, I was there.

One was Shuttleworths obviously, and one the now grounded Sabena Oldtimers Lizzie, but who owned the third one and what happened to it….?

I am sure you are right. I had an awareness of a Lysander lurking in a shed for a great many years, just did not twig that the airframe was actually not the same..