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RE: Are You Orange

Yes they are going to merge the two airlines.Buzz will be merged with KLM’s other low-cost airline, Basiq, into a single airline. In March of 2002, KLM had signaled its intention to eventually consolidate its two low-cost subsidiaries by placing them under a single management.
I heard they were talking about a new name called EuroHopper or just keeping the name Buzz.

RE: Are You Orange

I heard KLM wanted to merge Buzz with Basiq Air… or was it Transavia (the same if you ask me or is Basiq Air the low cost arm of Transavia which is the low cost arm of KLM ?).

RE: Are You Orange

Remember Debonair they used 146s for the most part and it didnt work for them, they kind of lost the plot because they wanted to be a low-cost no frills airline, but I seem to recall that they offered free drinks & food ?

RE: Are You Orange

Yeah – but they have been have been supposedly on about retiring them for a couple of years now – nothing heard tho since the KLM UK/Citihopper merger tho

RE: Are You Orange

don’t forget the fokker 50 they both operate and I have seen them enough now …

RE: Are You Orange

It was reported not so long back that buzz were looking into an expansion programme and withdrawing the 146’s – don’t kno whats happening not that parent KLM UK has merged with KLM Citihopper -LBA will be getting a mix of KLM UK F100’s and Citihopper F70’s from August.

RE: Are You Orange

I think the question is that can the smaller low cost carriers compete with EasyJet rather than Ryanair.Buzz for example is a very small airline compared to the big low cost carriers.Their network is very small with only destinations really in France,Germany and Northern Spain unlike EasyJet an Ryanair who fly all over Europe.Also the aircraft Buzz use is not doing them much good.The BAe146 is hard to operate profitable as low cost Aircraft and also operations with two manifactures (737-300) can not be that cheap either.
One good thing is the fact that Buzz operates to the primary airports rather than secondary such as CDG,unlike Ryanair who fly to Beauvais.With this you are closer to your destination and have better transportation links to the main cities so its a lot faster and more appealing to a passenger.However,Easyjet seem to be doing this now and so in my opinion its going to be harder for the likes of Buzz to compete in the low cost market when their ‘big brothers’ are getting larger all the time.

RE: Are You Orange

EZY turned out more expensive than BA to Palma, Majorca!

Ben

RE: Are You Orange

Well it has been sed that certain Easyjet routes are not that cheap compared to Ryanair on similar routes!

RE: Are You Orange

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-06-02 AT 07:48 AM (GMT)]Ryanair destinations:
Aarhus,Alghero,Ancona
Biarritz,Birmingham,Bournemouth,Brescia,Bristol,Brussels
Carcassonne,Cardiff,City of Derry,Cork
Dinard,Dublin
Einhoven,Esbjerg
Frankfurt,Friedrichshafen
Genoa,Glasgow,Gothenburg,Graz
Hamburg
Kerry,Klagenfurt,Knock
Leeds Bradford,Liverpool,London Gatwick,London Luton,London Stansted
Manchester,Malmo,Milan,Montpellier
Nimes,Newquay
Oslo –
Paris,Perpignan,Pescara,Pisa
Rome
Salzburg,Shannon,St.Etienne,Stockholm
Teesside,Trieste,Turin
Vasteras,Venice
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I’m sure Ryanair can compete as long as they keep their amount of destinations up and their prices down which i’m am sure Michael O’Leary will do then I see no problem.