Arnold Schwarrzeneger for president ?

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and as stated above, those that took advantage of these illegals need to be prosecuted. What needs to be done is newer methods of allowing legalization for immigrants, but the bottom line is full documents must be provided. It is fair to say that part of the reason (only part, some of these recent arrivals have became rather arrogant…and that’s gonna hurt them in the long run) why the US economy was good and still relatively well (relative to countries like Japan and Germany) is due to hard working immigrants. And yes, they usually do do things most Americans don’t want. So, i say at the same time we need to mobilize American teenagers to start working earlier on low end jobs (it offers great living skills…ie, fixing stuffs and service people) and support homeless people to start over. What i don’t like is people like some of these Mexican politicians who comes to the US preaching about the plight of the Mexicans in the US…and i ask, do they have any SHAME at all? Why do Mexicans need to come to the US in the first place? Could it be extreme corruption in Mexico? Mexico has lots of land, hard working people, people with spending culture (to spur internal growth), natural resources (oil), great tourist spots….all of this read a country with strong economic potentials…and Mixtec is more critical of the US? I see the propaganda have worked well…

I wonder, how does Schwarrzeneger’s decision to run on the Republican ticket go down with his wife’s family, the Kennedys? They’re renowned Democracts …

SOC WD , don’t you think that a bunch of Californian take a huge advantage of those illegal mexicans that they pay a couple of $ an hour to clean up their pools or fix their back yard?

With our own unemployment issues why should we farm our jobs out to people who aren’t even here legally let alone a citizen? You can’t fix the internal economic issues of a country by expecting another country to give your citizens free health care and access to their jobs.

No Mexican should make up any portion of our national work force. Our work force should be completely made up of Americans. Become a citizen and the jobs and the other benefits will be yours. Until your paying taxes you don’t get the programs they pay for. Simple as that.

I have no problem with them coming here and working, but if they are going to do so they need to do it legally or not at all. Taxpayer’s money should not be benefitting illegal immigrants, and in California one of the big arguments agains Davis is that it is doing just that. The $30 Billion USD defecit in California didn’t happen just because of a few governmenal budgetary miscalculations.

“Mexicans make up a huge part of the US workforce, they should have rights to minimum wage and healthcare just like any other laborer.”

Not if they are in the country illegally they shouldn’t. Look at the healthcare issue. LA is going to have to close 16 hospitals because of fiscal problems related to the overwhelming number of illegals who use the hospital. Unfortunately, when these people get health care, the hospital is not reimbursed under Medicaid. LA had a $360 million USD defecit just for health care in 2002 alone. Who does this hurt? Everyone. The hospitals will have to close down, denying their patrons with care as a result, and the remainder will be that much busier, further complicating the issue.

“Mexico has been trying to make transient labor legal for many years, especially recently with President Fox, but it is the US who insists on keeping transient labor illegal using 9/11 as an excuse for security risks.”

I have no problems personally if it is made legal, as there would then be accountability of the persons involved, as well as legality to their presence in the US. As for people employing illegals, they need to be charged with tax fraud and the illegals deported.

Originally posted by SOC
Schwarzenegger has always been a big Republican supporter, and is certainly not ignorant of the political scene. I think someone like him in the governor’s chair would be a good idea for the short term. No major political deals to worry about, just get the state back into shape and take care of the people instead of the party. For example, a serious and violent crackdown on illegal immigration would be an excellent start to ending the budgetary problems in California. No more driver’s licenses or free health care. Deportation. Better border control (more like positive border control). That’s the way to go. If people want to come to the US, make them do it legally.

A serious and violent crackdown on illegal immigration? What do you think Mexicans do in the US, go on summer vacation? Mexicans make up a huge part of the US workforce, they should have rights to minimum wage and healthcare just like any other laborer. Mexico has been trying to make transient labor legal for many years, especially recently with President Fox, but it is the US who insists on keeping transient labor illegal using 9/11 as an excuse for security risks. SOC-What kind of country has the US become that you would deny health care to farm laborers who put affordable food on your table?

Schwarzenegger has always been a big Republican supporter, and is certainly not ignorant of the political scene. I think someone like him in the governor’s chair would be a good idea for the short term. No major political deals to worry about, just get the state back into shape and take care of the people instead of the party. For example, a serious and violent crackdown on illegal immigration would be an excellent start to ending the budgetary problems in California. No more driver’s licenses or free health care. Deportation. Better border control (more like positive border control). That’s the way to go. If people want to come to the US, make them do it legally.

Originally posted by Geforce
Minnesota is not exactly California. For such an important state, you would at least expect them to have some serious candidates.

Sorry I fail to understand the serious candidate bit, surely these people have brains and therefore a certain amount of common sense. Surely by putting their names forward aren’t they being serious.

Or do all politicians have to be grey chinless wonders?

Weren’t Clint Eastwood and Ronald Reagan both successful governors of their respective states?

Not all Actors are Politicians, but aren’t all politicians actors ?????

Minnesota is not exactly California. For such an important state, you would at least expect them to have some serious candidates.

Well it took another actor to finally defeat the USSR. Arnie has been successful so far and there is no reason to believe an actor can’t be a successful political leader. IMHO the world needs more leadership candidates who wern’t born with their noses up the political establishments ass.

Sauron

To be president you have to be US born so he’ll never get to the Oval Office but he might become governor. Hey we already had Jesse “The Body” Ventura as governor of Minnesota who was a professional wrestler and in the movie Preditor with Arnold.

Originally posted by Geforce
And the other candidate is going to be … Larry Flint?

Boy, what a choise for the worlds 4th biggest economy.

BTW, Arnie was born in Austria. Doesn’t that exclude him from the president’s seat?

He got the US nationality a few years ago.

The other candidate might be Carly Fiorina actual Hewlett Packard CEO.

Anyway Arnie candidate : it’s a joke 🙂

And the other candidate is going to be … Larry Flint?

Boy, what a choise for the worlds 4th biggest economy.

BTW, Arnie was born in Austria. Doesn’t that exclude him from the president’s seat?