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will artificial intelligence ever work…ie ‘ self aware’ ?

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By: Creaking Door - 14th November 2007 at 11:25

I suppose a lot depends on the definitions of ‘robot’ and ‘intelligence’.

For example a machine that was able to move under its own power and make decisions with an on-board computer, decisions based on information about its surroundings from on-board sensors, to complete a planned task could be considered an intelligent robot.

What does that make an Exocet missile?

So much for Asimov’s Laws.

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By: mike currill - 14th November 2007 at 09:04

Yes, there are some very valid points in that but how many robot/aircraft can you afford to lose before it becomes finacially unviable? I’m trying to be picky here but it has to be realised that there has to be a limit somewhere.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 14th November 2007 at 06:07

The whole point of AI and fuzzy logic is to make computers more flexible.

Get two nuts and put them side by side and then put a bolt between them pointing up with the top of the bolt level with the two nuts and then get a cigar and lie it horizontally below the bottom of the bolt perpendicular with the bolt.

Any child will see two eyes and a nose and a mouth… a human face. Any computer will see two nuts, a bolt, and a cigar. Most of the time that isn’t a problem but sometimes it is.

Imagine an AAM that could recognise a civilian airliner and query the pilot who launched it to make sure that he or she knows the target is a civilian aircraft before going in for the kill.

AI is as dangerous as we make it.

BTW although factories have robots building things for us there are no robots in mines digging up raw materials, there are no robots repairing roads or driving trucks. Without robots that can maintain the infrastructure and repair themselves and get raw materials from their sources to the factories the robots taking over is not possible.

Having said that many Scifi writers claim robots cannot hurt us because of Asimovs laws. This of course assumes all robots will be programmed with Asimovs laws and that they properly understand them. For example turning off a power grid might prevent 1 person being electricuted, but might kill 10 people in the riots that follow.

A robot cannot react on a gut instinct but can withstand 20gs or more, requires no life support equipment on board and can be considered expenidble like no other human could. It doesn’t get bored, and is not put off in the slightest by incoming tracer fire.

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By: mike currill - 13th November 2007 at 11:48

Award yourself a Naval Gold Medal . My point is yes A I is with us, but hey it certainly lacks when judgement or imagination is needed.

Well put. AI is a wonderful thing but, certainly where something like ACM (Air Combat Manouvering) or taking evasive action with a warship is concerned, it will most likely not be as effective as the human equivalent for one reason, a computer can’t react on gut instinct or intuition whereas a human can.

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By: mixtec - 13th November 2007 at 01:55

There is no such thing as artificial intelligence, because the human brain is a computer. Humans possess no special “life” or “awareness”. You are not even actually aware of the present, you are only remembering it, because awareness is all memory. Scientists are working on making the brains synapses fire in a different order in which they naturally do, when they succeed, they will have created cyborg life. There is no such thing as thinking, we humans take in input and process it. For a computer to become human, it only has to mimic human behavior on a symantic level and be able to pass the turing test.

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By: sealordlawrence - 9th November 2007 at 22:40

Prey, your thoughts then ?

they would be lock this thread and be done with it.;)

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By: Der - 9th November 2007 at 21:51

There have been several threads cropping up lately which seem to have a distinct dearth of “real” intelligence in their subject matter.

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By: Norman D Lands - 9th November 2007 at 21:40

Why a ‘Naval Gold Medal’? I am not n the navy and this has nothing to do with the sea.:p

Prey, your thoughts then ?

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By: sealordlawrence - 9th November 2007 at 20:49

Award yourself a Naval Gold Medal . My point is yes A I is with us, but hey it certainly lacks when judgement or imagination is needed.

Why a ‘Naval Gold Medal’? I am not n the navy and this has nothing to do with the sea.:p

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By: Norman D Lands - 9th November 2007 at 19:12

well its intelligence that is artificial.

Award yourself a Naval Gold Medal . My point is yes A I is with us, but hey it certainly lacks when judgement or imagination is needed.

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By: bombsaway - 9th November 2007 at 18:46

Artificial Intelligence it was a rubbsih movie 😀 if i remember correctly

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By: PMN - 9th November 2007 at 18:30

Is it just me or are there more of these nonsense threads cropping up now? Come on people, either start a real discussion or don’t waste the board’s bandwidth.

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By: sealordlawrence - 9th November 2007 at 18:17

What are your views on the subject of Artificial Intelligence ?

well its intelligence that is artificial.

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By: PMN - 9th November 2007 at 17:49

Err… Maybe give us a rough idea of why you think that. By artificial intelligence I assume you mean man made devices that think for themselves?

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By: Norman D Lands - 9th November 2007 at 16:56

I have varied views on this subject, i think it is something we humans have got very complacent with.

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By: PMN - 9th November 2007 at 15:06

What are your views on the subject of Artificial Intelligence ?

Arn’t you going to tell us yours first to form the basis of some kind of discussion?!

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By: Hand87_5 - 29th February 2004 at 20:43

Originally posted by Jeanske_SN
What does that mean in English? 😀

That is what I meant : it’s too hard for you to speak about intelligence 😀

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By: mixtec - 29th February 2004 at 19:16

It depends on how you define AI. Any kind of machine that analyzes data about an external event and then makes a non-preset choice is using AI. So even the microwave in your kitchen has inteligence so to speak.

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By: Jeanske_SN - 29th February 2004 at 19:04

What does that mean in English? 😀

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By: Hand87_5 - 29th February 2004 at 19:03

I think so . As soon as the microprocessors will be copycats of the human brain ie: neuronal structure.

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