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Asking for fathers permission for marriage

Hi guys,

I have been with my partner for two years now, and I love her so much that I have finally decided to ask her to marry me. One question though, her father looks down on me as I don’t earn as much as her and due to not spending much time around him, knows very little about me or my relationship with his daughter.
With this in mind, I was wondering should I ask for his “approval” or “permission”? I have already attempted to “have a quiet word” so I could speak to him about it, but he has been non-responsive to these requests to talk together.
Every time I am around him, I feel that…while he talks to me with as much respect as anyone talks to someone they know…he has no respect for me.
Every other member of her family praise me. I am close with her best friend and this lady threw her arms around me when I told her my plans…I very much doubt this would be her dads reaction.
With the planned proposal date close (this coming Friday) and knowing that she would like me to have asked before I ask her, I would like your thoughts on the matter.
Did you ask the parents? Or are you a married lady who would like to contribute her thoughts on the matter?

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By: nJayM - 7th August 2011 at 06:50

DrPepper’s last post on this forum was 27 July 19:23

DrPepper’s last post on this forum was 27 July 19:23.

He is silent even to a PM I sent.

I guess it’s ‘shovel time’ – dig chaps:rolleyes: DrPepper’s succumbed either to the PIL/FIL or he had a heart attack on the post permission ‘job’.:D

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By: mike currill - 6th August 2011 at 10:41

Just thing long and hard about what you’re doing, how much it will cost over a lifetime and then go and buy a classic warbird instead! It may give you a headache but will never have a headache:diablo:

Which brings to mind the one about the young lad asking his dad how much a wedding costs and his father replying that he doesn’t know as he’s still paying for it.:D

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By: PeeDee - 5th August 2011 at 22:04

We need to know….
Did you pop the question?
Did you ask her Father?
Did he go into orbit or laugh…..or even approve?
Are you still together?
When is the Wedding, can we all come as a flypast?

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By: nJayM - 5th August 2011 at 14:16

Just spotted this Thread by DrPepper in June

Just spotted this Thread by DrPepper in June 😀
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=109787&highlight=DrPepper

He gets wrapped up in the melancholy and needs to live life to the full and an old Warbird sounds better for him.:rolleyes:

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By: nJayM - 5th August 2011 at 11:54

I thought usually the head ache was the weaker of the two’s negative answer

I thought usually the head ache was the weaker of the two’s negative answer to the man’s conjugal rights.
Maybe that is what DrPepper did bought a sensible ‘Warbird’ and he’s in ‘bliss’.:D

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By: inkworm - 5th August 2011 at 08:38

Just thing long and hard about what you’re doing, how much it will cost over a lifetime and then go and buy a classic warbird instead! It may give you a headache but will never have a headache:diablo:

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By: nJayM - 4th August 2011 at 23:56

Me too but maybe DrPepper (are you out there?) rolled it into a slap bang whallop!

Me too but maybe DrPepper (are you out there?) rolled it into a slap bang whallop!
Jim just before your little sojourn with the lap dancers (I mean nurses):rolleyes: you promised to start digging if we hadn’t heard back from DrPepper a week back Friday. I believe the likely ground was Wales.

Should a search and rescue/dig be started?;)

Rather than dig, come in DrPepper we are all dying to know your exploits;)

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By: Newforest - 4th August 2011 at 15:51

I thought it was an engagement proposal not a march down the aisle! :confused:

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By: Lincoln 7 - 4th August 2011 at 12:45

Bit late to the party Mike, the deed has (presumably) been done but where is the O.P.? In small pieces or floating on a cloud? The weekend has passed but then no news is good news, so how about sharing it Doctor?? 😀

Errrrrr would you take a computor on Honeymoon ?. when there are better things to “DO :D”

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By: Lincoln 7 - 4th August 2011 at 12:41

Sorry PeeDee,
Not familiar with too many locations around here. Wales it is :).

She and I have sat down and discussed marriage and yes she has already agreed, she would like me to ask simply because as has been said its tradition. As people here have said, if he says no then she already said we are getting married anyway :D. Yes, it does seem it will give him “power” and that is what I’m worried about, she will go ballastic at him if he says “no”. We have been through so much together in the two years we have been together as a couple and I don’t think he knows just how much we mean to each other.

Are you a MAN or a whimp, your letting the side down bud, S*d F.I.L. Just get on with it:eek:
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By: mike currill - 4th August 2011 at 12:05

Silly of me, I just stuck my oar in without looking at the dates of all the other posts. I have unfortunately been sadly lacking in computer time of late. Until I can get on here more regularly I must remember to look at the dates.

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By: Newforest - 4th August 2011 at 08:29

Bit late to the party Mike, the deed has (presumably) been done but where is the O.P.? In small pieces or floating on a cloud? The weekend has passed but then no news is good news, so how about sharing it Doctor?? 😀

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By: mike currill - 4th August 2011 at 08:08

For what it is worth I will offer my point of view. I don’t think the old asking for her hand in marriage happens much these days. Anyway it’s your lives not his and if the two of you want to get wed that is up to you. If he doesn’t like it-tough, he’ll just have to live with it.

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By: Denis - 27th July 2011 at 23:08

35 years ago I faced the same dilemma. He was a strong minded fellow who was very close to his daughter. I asked that same question expecting the worst outcome, but knew I had to stand as firm as he. I asked him for his approval, not permission. I had to show him that I was not going to back down and slink away if he had said no.

After we got over the ‘you are not good enough for my daughter’ routine, and he realised that I was as even minded or as strong willed as him, he settled on the approval. Make no mistake, I suffered the ‘your not good enough’ blah blah for the next 26 years. He and I had a fairly tempestuous relationship, but but I think deep down he respected the fact that I was in it for the long run, and that I was the best choice as a son in law.

My wife and I have been together for 35 years. We are happy together regardless of family on both sides. There has never been a better saying than ‘you can choose your friends but cannot choose your family’ It is your lives that count, Marry her and ignore the rest.

One last humourous quote, ‘Marriage is like a bank account, the more you invest in it, the less interest you get!🙂

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By: nJayM - 27th July 2011 at 09:24

DrPepper you are not buried, so glad we haven’t got to start digging today

DrPepper you are not buried, so glad we haven’t got to start digging today. Wales is tough territory.

Stop worrying, you both are obviously in love, and if he says no and as you state your girlfriend still wishes to proceed then simply go forward with the plan.

You are both adults and simply make your lives work as a couple and he nor anyone else certainly on this forum will have nothing adverse they can say.

Don’t use the PIL’s response as an excuse to postpone matters if you both wish to proceed.

Have you seen the numerous posts from others and the jokes I put on for you to take your mind off things and chill?:cool:

Do we now postpone any digging until after Friday?:D

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By: DrPepper - 27th July 2011 at 01:20

Sorry PeeDee,
Not familiar with too many locations around here. Wales it is :).

She and I have sat down and discussed marriage and yes she has already agreed, she would like me to ask simply because as has been said its tradition. As people here have said, if he says no then she already said we are getting married anyway :D. Yes, it does seem it will give him “power” and that is what I’m worried about, she will go ballastic at him if he says “no”. We have been through so much together in the two years we have been together as a couple and I don’t think he knows just how much we mean to each other.

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By: PeeDee - 27th July 2011 at 00:13

Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies and positive comments. I intend to propose when we go for a weekend away at Celtic Manor in England, it’s a place I have never been but looks superb on the net :).
If you don’t hear from me after the coming Monday, please form a search party and check the Worcester countryside for any patches of fresh earth :p.

It’s in Wales, boyo.
The cheap rooms face the Sea. Or rather, the distant Sea over the town of Newport.
Good rooms face inland…over the Golf courses.

Your future F.i.L sounds like a pompous ass that may very well appreciate the tradition of asking his permission. It will give him a power kick. If he says no, then go ahead and propose to her. Then tell her that her father said no….stand back and watch their fireworks LoL.
And, are you 100% sure she will say yes?
It also depends on how forthright your gal is, she may not approve of the whole process of being “Given away” at the aisle – which is part n parcel of the permission thing.

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By: nJayM - 26th July 2011 at 23:42

Aspis I like the history behind Suvlaki – I have my own little favourite

Hi Aspis I like the history behind Suvlaki – I have my own little favourite method of using pork (a bit like the old theory about garlic and the devil) to ward of mad Jihadis:diablo: – I usually always fly airlines that serve real bacon, sausages and possibly pork on the menu. On short haul domestic I usually carry with me in to the departure lounge a Marks & Spencers Ham and Mustard sandwich.
I eat a lot of pork and when I can wild boar – hard to get. Hence rare to have non pork eaters as neighbours.;)

Your discourse on wine is extremely useful. Thanks.:D

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By: Aspis - 26th July 2011 at 22:56

Damn, don’t make me search english words in this hour. 😀 I know yiaourtlou and aginaropita, the rest is dictionary quest for me. 😀

Souvlaki is always pork. Same as gyros. We always use pork in that. Arabs and Turks in kebab put lamb meat. It’s actually a religious thing too. There is a custom in a certain area of Greece where they do a mega-feast with roasted meat and all and the meat is pork, exactly because it was a way to bug off the Turks from their festivity during the Ottoman occupation. No muslim would come to close to a place where the whole town was breathing pork fumes. So saying a “pork suvlaki” is surplus. Suvlaki can only be pork. Even in Greece they write down on menus “pork suvlaki”, but only because the law requires to specity the meat type. Otherwise it is intended that when you say suvlaki is pork.

There are good wines that get exported, but the situation in Greece is a bit confused. There are many small producers that you don’t come to know easily unless they are in your region or you are very keen on wine hunting. Many in villages make their own wine for home and friends and that’s it and quality can vary a lot. Some monasteries also make good wine. But i wouldn’t be able to tell you whether it’s the best or not… For me wines are a matter of personal taste. I wouldn’t know how they manage to give grades to them in competitions. For me both Tsantali and Achaia Clauss have a good variety to cover most people’s tastes. Tsantali uses for most part macedonian vineyards in Chalkidiki and a bit southern, while Achaia Clauss, Peloponnese vineyards, so you get both north and south of Greece covered. Achaia Clauss was actually founded by a Bavarian that had settled in Greece and fell in love with Peloponnese vineyards so he decided to make a winery with local grapes.

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By: nJayM - 26th July 2011 at 22:23

Hi Aspsis – you are right DrPepper can do with taking his mind off the next 48 hrs

Hi Aspsis – you are right DrPepper can do with taking his mind off the next 48 hrs

Here’s a few dishes I haven’t had for years – Yiaourtlou, Artichoke Pie with Leek Aginaropita (Artichokes are one of my favourites especially just dipping the stems in virgin olive oil and eating them) and Pork Souvlaki

I miss being in the Home Counties as at least one could get to London for any kind of food and wine.

I shall keep a note of your tips on good Greek wines with the awards but are Good Greek wines like all good French wine the best is only found in the rural areas of France (never exported)?

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