ATPL Courses

I spoke to London Met about their ATPL course about 2yrs ago, they said they normally send their students to Bonus aviation for hour building. Although i’ve never met anyone whos done their ATPL course.

I heard through a friend today that CATS at Cranfield has ceased ops – anyone know anymore on that? I was considering them for the ATPL.

XH668 – Yep, see you about sometime. Good luck with flying with TA Aviation. They have a nice fleet. I photographed their ex BA tomahawk in the snow earlier this year. 🙂

Could always do Aviation Management at London Met Uni – you can do it via pilots pathway as well.

Aren’t there any options for civilian training funded by the government or e.g. airlines in the UK?

AFAIK, there are a few such FTOs in some other European countries.

Could always do Aviation Management at London Met Uni – you can do it via pilots pathway as well. Being as you’re in Essex, providing you can get to a train station the locations for the teaching of Aviation are very convenient for Liverpool Street as well as other mainline stations as it has great Tube links

http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/lmbs/subjects/aviation/

Is your question aimed at me? If so, im with bonus aviation. 🙂

Ahh im hiring from TA Aviation with a private instructor

See you about?

Is your question aimed at me? If so, im with bonus aviation. 🙂

Just take your time. Enjoy training for your PPL and enjoy the hour building.
I’m currently hour building from Cranfield, although at the moment due to funds (and economic climate) im in no rush to get the ATPL exams out of the way.

I think thats the plan, go to uni get a back up. Gat a ppl, hour build and get ratings etc

Who you flying with/from at c’field?

668

Just take your time. Enjoy training for your PPL and enjoy the hour building.
I’m currently hour building from Cranfield, although at the moment due to funds (and economic climate) im in no rush to get the ATPL exams out of the way.

Dean, just curious where the furloughs have been felt on the other side of the pond. In the US about half of the majors have some pilots furlough, anywhere from a few hundred to a thousand+. The regionals are in the same boat with half having already furloughed anywhere from 100-400 pilots at each company. We’ve seen a 20% reduction in pilots at our company with our furlough happening in the 4th quarter of ’08.

The kicker here, in addition to the economy, is the change of the manditory retirement age from 60-65 back in ’07. As a result there won’t be any manditory pilot retirements for 5 years. The earliest anyone has guessed we might see a some positive movement in recalls/hiring is late next year, most likely 2011. By then the senior pilots will be a year away from the manditory retirement kicking in again so my guess is hiring is going to go from a 3 year standstill to perhaps the biggest hiring booms ever. Feast or Famine.

How about FTOs which do not require each student to cover his/her own training expenses? Are there any public (e.g. university) courses or similar options available for you?

Thanks guys

Its just finding the best route to finance it, i dont want to go to uni come out with loads of debt and find that i can afford to do my atpl :/

Cheers
668

668

Whatever you do get your education first, the aviation industry is very fickle, and very volatile, I am flying for a reasonably safe airline yet we wonder every week whether our jobs will be here this time next week.

As for doing your ATPLs, timing is everything, on a personal level I don’t think the good times will be here again for the 150/200hr wannabe for years to come. Firstly nobody is recruiting at the moment (as you’d expect), infact I personally think it’s going to be a bloody winter for the airline industry, a couple of major airlines are expected to go under. There are hundreds, if not thousands of unemployed pilots right across Europe with the right to live and work in Europe. When the good times arrive these guys will need vacuuming back into the system, this could take 18 months, or longer.

What I am saying is that if you want to do your ATPLs then you need to time it right so that you finish training at the start of boom time. Do your research, make up your own mind, but whatever you do, get an education.

Dean

Whichever way you do it, best of luck with the ATPLs! I am just waiting for my final set of results, which are due this coming Thursday.