Attention Spitfire builders…

I have, on a number of occasions let the seller know just what he is selling!

Anyway, I wasnt having a go – I have no issue whatever with what you do, or what you sell.

Bruce

Sorry Bruce i wasnt having a pop at you personally just making a point i think we have all wasted enough time discussing it lets get back to our projects.;)

English law for traders:

The person transferring or selling the goods must have the right to do so, and the goods must:

* correspond with the description – Many transactions involve a description of some kind. When goods are supplied and the consumer relies on such a description, the goods must be ‘as described’. If the description is false, a criminal offence may also have been committed.

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/bglitem.cgi?file=badv073-1011.txt

To use a term and then withdraw it within the description places the seller in a grey area, legally. When that description would popularise and potentially enhance the value of the item, irrespective of the actual amount realised, should a legal case be brought, the seller could find themselves out of pocket for a lot more than 12.99.

its only a bit of harmless marketing to get people looking, its a jungle out there

It’s certainly not a jungle, retail in the UK is quite appropriately regulated under UK and EEC law, to the benefit of both traders and consumers. As to ‘harmless marketing’ you may regard that as a ‘defence’, but it won’t cut any ice in court. Just a few words to the wise. 😉

I have, on a number of occasions let the seller know just what he is selling!

Anyway, I wasnt having a go – I have no issue whatever with what you do, or what you sell.

Bruce

Ive bought instruments off Graham and Id say hes an honest chap, the same applies to another gent on this forum. Ok so he made a slight marketing faux pas, however, the question marks and his wording showed he didnt intend to rip anyone off.

Now, Im not aiming for brownie points, future discounts etc etc etc etc, but I have to ask this, of all other Evil Bay items we discuss on here and we’ve REALLY slated a few on here since I joined last November, cant we cut Graham some slack? Bex

Thanks for putting this issue in perpective, where do I send the cheque? LOL seriously thanks!

They arent Vampire either!

They look like elevator tips, but no idea what from.

Mark made a valid point above – Ebay do frown on items that use other things to describe them, when they have no relation to that item. It is something they have been clamping down on recently, so dont get caught!

At one aerojumble, I lost count of the number of things that were advertised as Spitfire. The one item I saw that was Spitfire, wasnt advertised as such, and the seller ad no idea what it was! Bargain!!:diablo:

Bruce

There’s a good point, how many people find bargains among incorrect listings???? no one feels sorry for the seller or complains about an incorrect description when they get a bargain, sounds like double standards to me. If we are going to set ourselves up as 100% honest all of the time then we should always imform the seller when he’s got a valuable item.
OK I am very very sorry for using the Word Spitfire in the title and making a wopping £12.99 less ebay fees less paypal fees less what i paid for the parts in the first place, oh yes and wages for wrapping and listing and posting, and i promise never ever to do it again OK? :rolleyes:

Ive bought instruments off Graham and Id say hes an honest chap, the same applies to another gent on this forum. Ok so he made a slight marketing faux pas, however, the question marks and his wording showed he didnt intend to rip anyone off.

Now, Im not aiming for brownie points, future discounts etc etc etc etc, but I have to ask this, of all other Evil Bay items we discuss on here and we’ve REALLY slated a few on here since I joined last November, cant we cut Graham some slack? Bex

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/keyword-spam.html

The amount of ‘Spitfire’ stuff on eBay is astonishing!

Repeating post 6, this is called ‘keyword spamming’ and will be frowned on by E-Bay.

They arent Vampire either!

They look like elevator tips, but no idea what from.

Mark made a valid point above – Ebay do frown on items that use other things to describe them, when they have no relation to that item. It is something they have been clamping down on recently, so dont get caught!

At one aerojumble, I lost count of the number of things that were advertised as Spitfire. The one item I saw that was Spitfire, wasnt advertised as such, and the seller ad no idea what it was! Bargain!!:diablo:

Bruce

I’m sorry if you feel that I was taking a pot shot at you but I don’t agree with putting unrelated words into the title. You’ve freely admitted that it’s NOT Spitfire, and credit to you for not trying to actually sell it to people as such as many traders would do, but it’s an annoying sales tactic to deliberately mislead people in the title.

Unfortunately eBay is very competitive and the fees horrendous if everybody stopped using the word Spitfire it would be great but unfortunately it’s a key word and gets hits, simple but sad fact of life old chap. My feedback speaks for itself. If you want to get annoyed about something, find something worth getting anoyed about.

I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if you were looking for parts, and clicked on an auction titled “Rolls Royce Meteor parts” only to find yourself looking at bits from a 1.1 Fiesta engine…

Quite the contrary, i find it very funny reading some of the descriptions, I just adapt my searches the best I can to find what i am looking for.

I did chuckle Graham when I saw the title and the rest. I understand where you are coming from money wise, but it was not apparent to me that they were not being touted as such…..I scanned the photo shot and went….ahhhh Vampire Fin tops…not Spitfire and moved on. Dont think you need to be quite so grumpy old chap…life is too short and there is much worse stuff to worry about IMHO….keep smiling one and all 🙂

I’ll try not to be so grumpy LOL its just some folks take cheap shots, its only a bit of harmless marketing to get people looking, its a jungle out there.;)
I wish i knew they were Vampire tips would probably have made twice what they did, I’ll be your best mate if you let me know next time LOL:)

I did chuckle Graham when I saw the title and the rest. I understand where you are coming from money wise, but it was not apparent to me that they were not being touted as such…..I scanned the photo shot and went….ahhhh Vampire Fin tops…not Spitfire and moved on. Dont think you need to be quite so grumpy old chap…life is too short and there is much worse stuff to worry about IMHO….keep smiling one and all 🙂

Then why put “SPITFIRE???” in the listing title?

I put Spitfire in the description because of their nice elliptical shape, I also put THEY ARE NOT SPITFIRE and they sold for £12.99 if you have a problem with that tough. Lots of people like to paint stuff like this with nose art and for that they are perfect. we also added part numbers, anyone who knows anything knows this is not a Spit number in addition we have 100% positive feedback with hundreds of satisfied customers. I find it amazing that some people have enough time on their hands to take petty pot shots at traders who try hard to be open, honest and offer a good service.
I do try and make money obviously, the last time I looked that’s what makes this country tick and every other country for that matter. I am not rich I live in a terraced house and own a plastic Spitfire and have a full time job WOW I am really getting rich.
Constructive comments I am always grateful for and always post corrections as for petty snipes; sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.:mad:

Wing tips on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAF-WW2-WING-TIPS-SPITFIRE_W0QQitemZ260144767557QQihZ016QQcategoryZ2983QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mark 🙁

Well, you all missed these ‘Spitfire’ bargains, they went for £12.99!

Then why put “SPITFIRE???” in the listing title?

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/keyword-spam.html

The amount of ‘Spitfire’ stuff on eBay is astonishing!

look more like control surface tips to me.

So they are eliptical and the only other word I know that goes with that word is Spitfire? Good job he put the question marks after the listing title and by the way the spelling is SURPLUS!:D

Make a nice art deco armchair….