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Austers – What's wrong with them?

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For years I have been bagging Austers and as fate has dictated, I am now the owner of 2 of them (J5’s).

I am still stratching my head over why I purchased them, and now I am having difficulity in coming up with reasons why I should like them. I have a couple of hours flying Austers a while back, so can’t remember too much about their flying characteristics – save that they float a lot when landing.

Can fellow forumites help me with this problem – what are some good points about Austers

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By: mike currill - 6th August 2009 at 12:15

I would be happy just to have a flight in one, never flown in an Auster.

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By: XM692. - 6th August 2009 at 11:25

Martin,

Actually i was up to nefarious activities in the countryside when one flew over the cuckoo’s nest. 😀

Well actually a singleton followed by a pair about 5 mins later sometime between 7-8pm Sunday. Three Austers returning with haggis i presume ?

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By: T6flyer - 6th August 2009 at 09:26

And did you get back about 8pm Sunday night by chance ?

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Little bit earlier, but that was us….I did try to figure out which house was yours as we went over!

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By: XM692. - 6th August 2009 at 04:00

I’ve just spent a week touring Scotland in an Auster and had a wonderful time.

And did you get back about 8pm Sunday night by chance ?

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By: T6flyer - 5th August 2009 at 23:46

I’ve just spent a week touring Scotland in an Auster and had a wonderful time. They may be boring to some, but they play an important part of our aviation heritage and besides being a major contributor to the postwar civilian market, have seen military action in WW2, Korea, Aden, Malaya, Borneo etc etc.

Each to their own of course, but there is something about them, that makes them that little bit unique!!

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By: mike currill - 31st July 2009 at 22:27

You should read the latest issue of Flyer magazine then. Brian Lecomber has some not so nice thing to say about the Auster:D In short he thinks it is similar to the Morris Minor Post Office van a lot of people are restoring these days. They were crap to drive when new, and are still crap to drive now, with the historical significance of a lump of chewing gum. Yet the owners love them………….:D:D:D:D

You shouldn’t take everything Mr L says as gospel though. In a moment of humour (or pique) he claims that the idea behind the Chipmunk was to produce something more aerodynamic than the Tiger Moth and then claims that it could have been achieved by bolting a plank on top of a milk float:D I love his phraseology.

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By: Joe Petroni - 28th July 2009 at 22:21

Someone once put it to me that it was the Auster and the Tiger Moth that together successfully destroyed Britain’s post war light aeroplane industry!!!

People were so relieved to see Cessnas and Pipers crossing the atlantic….

They made the Cherokee look good afterall.:D

Perversely I was rather relived to get out of Cessna’s and Pipers and into an Auster. 🙂

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By: Balliol - 28th July 2009 at 20:54

A.N.Other:- Hello, how was the flight?
Auster pilot:- Pardon?

Anyway, I love pre war aeroplanes even if they were built post war.

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By: Rlangham - 27th July 2009 at 21:50

No problem. I’ll sell you a fully airworthy Clutton FRED for ten thousand pounds less than that! :diablo:

No thanks, I spend too much time on my hair in the morning for a FRED! Although if it was the BE2 for the same price i’d be interested…. :diablo:

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By: cometguymk1 - 27th July 2009 at 21:38

lol thats within my price range though 🙂

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By: Arabella-Cox - 27th July 2009 at 21:35

Someone once put it to me that it was the Auster and the Tiger Moth that together successfully destroyed Britain’s post war light aeroplane industry!!!

People were so relieved to see Cessnas and Pipers crossing the atlantic….

They made the Cherokee look good afterall.:D

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By: The Blue Max - 27th July 2009 at 21:24

No problem. I’ll sell you a fully airworthy Clutton FRED for ten thousand pounds less than that! :diablo:

The Auster is very much the product of its times.
A (forgive the pun) austerity-built Taylorcraft with a pre-war Gipsy Major or Cirrus engine up front.

They are tricky to land, sometimes ponderous, thirsty, smelly, oily, and leak when it rains – as a Tiger Moth owner ‘AHY, you should love it!

Not sure the FRED classes as Historic!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

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By: low'n'slow - 27th July 2009 at 21:16

Blimey, where do I start with this one! As for Merlinmagic thinking of them as expensive, last I heard there were two airworthy Austers for sale for around £14,000 – not many other historic aircraft you can buy airworthy for that price.

No problem. I’ll sell you a fully airworthy Clutton FRED for ten thousand pounds less than that! :diablo:

The Auster is very much the product of its times.
A (forgive the pun) austerity-built Taylorcraft with a pre-war Gipsy Major or Cirrus engine up front.

They are tricky to land, sometimes ponderous, thirsty, smelly, oily, and leak when it rains – as a Tiger Moth owner ‘AHY, you should love it!

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By: galdri - 27th July 2009 at 13:38

now I am having difficulity in coming up with reasons why I should like them.

You should read the latest issue of Flyer magazine then. Brian Lecomber has some not so nice thing to say about the Auster:D In short he thinks it is similar to the Morris Minor Post Office van a lot of people are restoring these days. They were crap to drive when new, and are still crap to drive now, with the historical significance of a lump of chewing gum. Yet the owners love them………….:D:D:D:D

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By: Rlangham - 27th July 2009 at 13:01

Blimey, where do I start with this one! As for Merlinmagic thinking of them as expensive, last I heard there were two airworthy Austers for sale for around £14,000 – not many other historic aircraft you can buy airworthy for that price.

As well as the very low price, there’s also fairly good spares support, superb short take off and landing characteristics, plenty of room inside for you and a friend or significant other to go away for a few days with a big tent and baggage in the back, or even take the kids. Very interesting history, especially if you buy an ex-military Auster, they usually create a lot of interest whenever they go somewhere, the International Auster Club, at least the UK section, is very active and friendly getting you in to interesting places.

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By: Joe Petroni - 27th July 2009 at 11:24

If you can get an Operation and Maintenance Handbook, you will have the set.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n18/JohnManson/SCAN0010.jpg

You can get CD copies off ebay.

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By: Proctor VH-AHY - 27th July 2009 at 11:08

What sort of maintenance manuals are about, I have:

  • Spares Schedule for Auster Aircraft
  • Manual of Instruction for the repair of Auster Aircraft
  • Beagle Auster Service Bulletins

anyone care to suggest other doco that would be good to aquire.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 27th July 2009 at 11:04

I would be happy just to have a flight in one, never flown in an Auster.

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By: Auster Fan - 27th July 2009 at 10:38

G-HHHH is a Robinson Helicopter. G-AHHH is lovely J1N!

And originally a J/1! Yes, they’re idiosyncratic, possibly over-engineered (?) as many British aircaraft designs were (yes, I know it’s origins were American….), but to me they have a certain quintessential charm which is difficult to define and I guess they have been responsible for many people’s first aircraft flights over the years at North Denes, Skegness et al….. My hope one day is to fly one PIC, but that’s a little way off at the moment.

(And I’m sure Rob Langham and I could put up a strong defence, given the time to get our heads together……!! ;))

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By: Joe Petroni - 27th July 2009 at 10:21

Now G-HHHH is a Mk.3 and that is an interesting aeroplane here in Australia. Most were ex-RAAF.and I must admit if I had to have an Auster that would have been my choice of mark. However mine is one once owned by somebody called Bobby Gibbs who was some kind of Ace I think from WW2.

He formed Gibbs Sepik Airways in New Guinea and this is where my Auster earned its keep at one time.

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