By: Peter - 5th May 2003 at 16:20
the shed
Thought youd get a kick out of that mike.
btw dont look now but the airborne division is getting prepped to raid your shed..!
By: Bluebird Mike - 4th May 2003 at 19:17
Peter-no, my shed is just full of spiders! And fifteen Merlin engines still in their cases, three H2S blisters, nine Lancaster main spars and a turnip…anyway, I was grinning at your use of the dread word ‘replica’ re. that overgrown Airfix kit at Elvington!
😉
By: David Burke - 4th May 2003 at 18:02
Peter – Plenty of people think they have a fortune in Hercules engines until they check the model numbers and find they have
either a Noratlas or Varsity engine which are pretty worthless as there are so many in circulation. The Hercules 18 is the one to have but even then you can hype the price as much as you like as demand for them is incredibly limited.
By: Peter - 4th May 2003 at 13:38
Wot!!??
Mike,
judging by you sitting there grinning like the proverbial cheshire cat!, have you got a garden shed full of Bristol hercules engines the?
By: Bluebird Mike - 3rd May 2003 at 22:01
Peter-:D 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Mike
By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd May 2003 at 21:03
Re: there are three
Originally posted by peter
Does anyone know where they can get a set of Hercs?
Peter, I wish I did. If I had access to a stash of Hercs, I’d be a very rich man. 😀
By: Peter - 3rd May 2003 at 20:59
ok……
Ok Mike. Elvington hasa REPLICA hali only and not a real one…Happy???
By: Bluebird Mike - 3rd May 2003 at 16:53
…at the risk of opening old wounds on the board, I’d beg to differ with my friend Peter there and would remove Elvington from the list of surviving Halifaxes! They’ve cobbled together something that LOOKS like one, but that’s it!
:rolleyes:
By: Peter - 3rd May 2003 at 12:29
there are three
There are just three examples of a halifax bomber in the world, Hendon, Elvington and trenton respectivly. The trenton museum has the best chance of getting their aircraft ground running but sadly their engines are unable of being ground run due to the magnesium alloy compnents being badly corroded. Does anyone know where they can get a set of Hercs?
By: Graeme C - 3rd May 2003 at 10:42
I would like to see more lancs flying but i would like to see a Halifax also. Its a dam shame 1 only have 1 type of our ww2 bombers left. I mean even if it was ground run it would be interesting. Look at the US bombers,they have like 16+ B-17s, 3 B-24s, this numbers are going to increase. All we have left is 2 lancs, pos 3 with kermit or east kirby.
Are there alot of Halifax or wellingtons in storage or with museums? Has Jim Pearce been able to salvage our types?
Graeme
By: Peter - 2nd May 2003 at 18:39
yes i agree Mike…
Our group alone would not want to see our star exhibit being flown as there is always a possibility of an accident or incident(CWH taxxiin incident) that could seriously damage or write off the pride of our museum. Not to mention we dont have a runway nearby..!
By: Bluebird Mike - 2nd May 2003 at 18:35
Gotta agree 100% with Seve and Doughnut’s posts there.
By: DOUGHNUT - 2nd May 2003 at 16:04
As was the Bruntingthorpe Vulcan before somebody dreamt up an underfunded and unsustainable plan to fly her.
Don’t try to fix what is not broken.
There are more than enought projects which require support.
DOUGHNUT
By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd May 2003 at 13:39
KB976 with Kermit Weeks can be added to that list as well.
As a theoretical question – COULD it be done, yes. As Peter says, it’s down in no small part to funding.
As for WOULD it be done…? Well alongside the bottomless pockets you also need the will to do it – and I can’t see many of these organisations wanting to take that risk. The Panton’s for example would have to take their flagship exhibit out of the public eye for a long period for a restoration to airworthiness. During that time there would be no revenue-earning taxi run displays, it’s a fair assumption that visitor numbers would drop, and the funding required for the restoration and subsequent operation would dry up. She’s much better off in her current role as a living, albeit grounded, memorial to the crews of Bomber Command.
By: Peter - 2nd May 2003 at 02:38
Theres quite a few actually…!
If someone had a few million to spare then sure theres lots of lancs that could fly again.
In canada alone if one could undertake a costly restoration to fly then the following lancs could return to the air:
FM159 in Nanton Alberta
KB882 in Edmunston New Brunswick
KB944 in the museum at Ottawa canada
FM212 and FM136 would need the remanufacturing of the missing centre section floors and main spars before they could fly
Outside of canada you have
KB889 at Duxford
NX622 australia
NX665 Museum of Transport and Technology in Auckland, NZ
The lancasters
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