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  • AlanR

B-17 "All American" (414th Squadron, 97BG)

I’d be surprised if this hasn’t been posted before, but despite searching on
here, I couldn’t find any reference. Even if it has, there are no doubt some
who haven’t seen this before.
Looking at the pictures, my first thought was that an aircraft couldn’t stay in
one piece with that sort of damage, but it does appear to be authentic.

http://garfieldsteamhouse.org/History/WWII/WWII-B17-Survival-Story.php

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By: Steve Birdsall - 24th February 2013 at 04:14

Everything in the story is true, except for the article writer blindly assuming that the only place bombers were flying to/from was Britain, and so deciding that the information saying the B-17 was flying from Biskra, Algeria to bomb Tunisia must be in error, none of the rest of the world is important enough for heavy bombers to be sent to, you see.

See the account on pages 10-12 (mainly page 12, pages 10-11 establish where they were and what their missions were) here: http://books.google.com/books?id=Kj54qUKgvrgC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=lt+kendrick+r+bragg&source=bl&ots=ln1rp73SAE&sig=-HxmVXSM3AnfaUWcJNG0ieLCLVw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=C5InUP2hMIWi8gTR44CQDg&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=lt%20kendrick%20r%20bragg&f=false

Since this story has come up again, it might be worth noting that while the Bill Hess book is pretty much accurate except for things like the type of German fighter involved in the collision, the story at “Garfield’s Team House” is not.

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By: paul1867 - 23rd February 2013 at 20:49

Interestingly enough, Bager, despite the latest two threads only being started 5 days apart the later thread did seem to attract new comments, possibly because it has been viewed more.

This thread drew my attention to this interesting storey which would not have been the case if the original poster had found the previous threads and not posted. Who knows how long it would have been before I browsed to the previous threads.

This thread entitled “B-17 “All American” (414th Squadron, 97BG)” has at the time of writing 220 views and the later thread “WW2 – B 17 survival story – unclassified” 870 views. So it would seem it is all in the name to attract attention.
I am pleased that this was brought to my attention, although it could be argued that adding to the previous posts would have had the same results by bringing it to the top of the pile.

Of course, the search engine does not exactly encourage people to look for previous posts either as you rightly pointed out!!!!

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By: Bager1968 - 23rd February 2013 at 15:17

Interesting thanks for posting.

This thread was also about this incident.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=109835

Which was started 17 June 2011.

There are also these threads about the same aircraft…
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=120079 19 October 2012

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=118734 14 August 2012

And from post #4 on here: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=96614 27 December 2009

And as I said in October 2012…

‘m not getting on you for not finding the earlier threads… the broke-d!ck search (mis)function on this board couldn’t find either thread… despite the search term

B-17 “All American”

being in the title of the first link I posted.

I had to get the links from Google!

Which is, of course, why yet another thread on the same plane was started AFTER this thread! http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=122414 10 February 2013

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By: paul1867 - 5th February 2013 at 22:15

Interesting thanks for posting.

This thread was also about this incident.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=109835

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