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B-N Firecracker

If I remember correctly, this aeroplane was a competitor in the competition to provide the RAF with a new trainer. The Shorts Tucano won, but does the Firecracker still exist?

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By: BTC8183 - 16th July 2012 at 17:51

NDN-1T

Good to see the NDN-1T’s have survived to be now ‘historic’.
During 83 ,TR/005 and TS/006 became part of the SFT fleet at carlisle airport under the ‘Firecracker UK’ branding.
Interesting to read a previous post ,that sn007 aka TT,actually flew!.
It never flew as part of SFT and rumour 84/85 had it being with Hunting[who were the intended build partner, if the RAF variant ever saw the light of day].Even then it was rumoured to be in an uncompleted state.It did donate a canopy to TR in late 84 though.

Both 005 and 006 have been photographed over the years in the USA,but 007 listed as N70878 is still as shy as ever!.

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By: Robert Whitton - 15th July 2012 at 10:55

At Fanborough 19??

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By: chumpy - 15th July 2012 at 10:07

Just on a point of accuracy re the thread title..whilst the NDN Firecracker was designed by Desmond Norman. It was never a product of the Britten Norman (B-N) company.

Desmond had long since left BN to do his ‘own thing’, the three ‘Turbines’ were built at Sandown, Isle of Wight. Photo of G-SFTR returning from an early sortie at Sandown in December 1983.
The other two, G-SFTS and G-SFTT flew during the spring and summer of 1984.

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By: Moggy C - 4th July 2012 at 11:24

My memory isnt what it was, but im sure i photographed a Firecracker at Coventry some years back in a sort of semi-stored state, any thoughts?

Correct

Desmond Norman was a consultant to Atlantic / Atlantique, and the aircraft was stored in one of the T2s in the late 1990s

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By: daveg4otu - 4th July 2012 at 11:21

………..so how many Firecrackers were produced and where?

THis is what I have on my website….Hope that helps.
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/iowweb/ndn.html#

If anyone can fill any gaps it would be very pleasing.

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By: avion ancien - 4th July 2012 at 11:05

………..so how many Firecrackers were produced and where?

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By: nostalgair2 - 4th July 2012 at 09:12

Firecracker

My memory isnt what it was, but im sure i photographed a Firecracker at Coventry some years back in a sort of semi-stored state, any thoughts?

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By: daveg4otu - 3rd July 2012 at 19:16

G-SFTT and G-SFTS also both in the USA as N70878 and N50FK both with Firecracker INc, Eugene,OR.

N2157C is ex G-SFTR

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By: Mike J - 3rd July 2012 at 19:12

One of the piston Firecrackers (N182FR) and a turbine version (N2157C) are being used by the National Test Pilots School at Mojave. Both were still active quite recently.

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By: daveg4otu - 3rd July 2012 at 19:07

N2157C & N182FR both current with FLIGHT RESEARCH INC .Starkville Mississippi.

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By: avion ancien - 3rd July 2012 at 18:45

G-NDNI is now in Australia (Left UK in 2003)

Here it is at Goodwood, long ago.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd July 2012 at 16:50

Aledgedly, when being reviewed at A&AEE Boscombe Down the Firecracker had the famous Test Pilot quote reused and applied to it.
“This aircraft is difficult to get into, it should be made impossible.”

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd July 2012 at 15:59

Yes the A-20 Wamira recently moved back to Australia. Mark Pilkington may be able to update should he wish to ?

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By: Newforest - 3rd July 2012 at 15:44

Both still flying apparently….

G-NDNI is now in Australia (Left UK in 2003)
G-SFTS is now in America

Sure about Australia? My info. is that G-NDNI became N182FR and G-SFTR became N2157C. 🙂

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By: Orion - 3rd July 2012 at 15:24

Thanks for that

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By: Fouga23 - 3rd July 2012 at 15:24

The mockup still exists and was owned by a forum member until last year, I think.

Dave, you out there?:D

EDIT: oeps, was thinking of the AAC Wamira mockup

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By: Phantom Phil - 3rd July 2012 at 15:21

Both still flying apparently….

G-NDNI is now in Australia (Left UK in 2003)
G-SFTS is now in America

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