July 3, 2012 at 3:12 pm
If I remember correctly, this aeroplane was a competitor in the competition to provide the RAF with a new trainer. The Shorts Tucano won, but does the Firecracker still exist?
Regards
By: BTC8183 - 16th July 2012 at 17:51
NDN-1T
Good to see the NDN-1T’s have survived to be now ‘historic’.
During 83 ,TR/005 and TS/006 became part of the SFT fleet at carlisle airport under the ‘Firecracker UK’ branding.
Interesting to read a previous post ,that sn007 aka TT,actually flew!.
It never flew as part of SFT and rumour 84/85 had it being with Hunting[who were the intended build partner, if the RAF variant ever saw the light of day].Even then it was rumoured to be in an uncompleted state.It did donate a canopy to TR in late 84 though.
Both 005 and 006 have been photographed over the years in the USA,but 007 listed as N70878 is still as shy as ever!.
By: Robert Whitton - 15th July 2012 at 10:55
At Fanborough 19??
By: chumpy - 15th July 2012 at 10:07
Just on a point of accuracy re the thread title..whilst the NDN Firecracker was designed by Desmond Norman. It was never a product of the Britten Norman (B-N) company.
Desmond had long since left BN to do his ‘own thing’, the three ‘Turbines’ were built at Sandown, Isle of Wight. Photo of G-SFTR returning from an early sortie at Sandown in December 1983.
The other two, G-SFTS and G-SFTT flew during the spring and summer of 1984.
Cheers, Chumpy.
By: Moggy C - 4th July 2012 at 11:24
My memory isnt what it was, but im sure i photographed a Firecracker at Coventry some years back in a sort of semi-stored state, any thoughts?
Correct
Desmond Norman was a consultant to Atlantic / Atlantique, and the aircraft was stored in one of the T2s in the late 1990s
Moggy
By: daveg4otu - 4th July 2012 at 11:21
………..so how many Firecrackers were produced and where?
THis is what I have on my website….Hope that helps.
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/iowweb/ndn.html#
If anyone can fill any gaps it would be very pleasing.
By: avion ancien - 4th July 2012 at 11:05
………..so how many Firecrackers were produced and where?
By: nostalgair2 - 4th July 2012 at 09:12
Firecracker
My memory isnt what it was, but im sure i photographed a Firecracker at Coventry some years back in a sort of semi-stored state, any thoughts?
By: daveg4otu - 3rd July 2012 at 19:16
G-SFTT and G-SFTS also both in the USA as N70878 and N50FK both with Firecracker INc, Eugene,OR.
N2157C is ex G-SFTR
By: Mike J - 3rd July 2012 at 19:12
One of the piston Firecrackers (N182FR) and a turbine version (N2157C) are being used by the National Test Pilots School at Mojave. Both were still active quite recently.
By: daveg4otu - 3rd July 2012 at 19:07
N2157C & N182FR both current with FLIGHT RESEARCH INC .Starkville Mississippi.
By: avion ancien - 3rd July 2012 at 18:45
G-NDNI is now in Australia (Left UK in 2003)
Here it is at Goodwood, long ago.
By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd July 2012 at 16:50
Aledgedly, when being reviewed at A&AEE Boscombe Down the Firecracker had the famous Test Pilot quote reused and applied to it.
“This aircraft is difficult to get into, it should be made impossible.”
By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd July 2012 at 15:59
Yes the A-20 Wamira recently moved back to Australia. Mark Pilkington may be able to update should he wish to ?
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By: Newforest - 3rd July 2012 at 15:44
Both still flying apparently….
G-NDNI is now in Australia (Left UK in 2003)
G-SFTS is now in America
Sure about Australia? My info. is that G-NDNI became N182FR and G-SFTR became N2157C. 🙂
By: Orion - 3rd July 2012 at 15:24
Thanks for that
Regards
By: Fouga23 - 3rd July 2012 at 15:24
The mockup still exists and was owned by a forum member until last year, I think.
Dave, you out there?:D
EDIT: oeps, was thinking of the AAC Wamira mockup
By: Phantom Phil - 3rd July 2012 at 15:21
Both still flying apparently….
G-NDNI is now in Australia (Left UK in 2003)
G-SFTS is now in America