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B17F SALVAGE QUEEN

Does any body know the crews names of B17F  SALVAGE QUEEN  42-30005 , after being badly damaged she was flown to BAD1  Burtonwood for major repairs , only to be broken up some months after arriving !

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By: ballturret - 10th July 2023 at 23:23

What can i say other than wow !

You have been busy , i have seen and saved the photos of the aircraft and the ground crew but i never new the missions or the aircrew names .That is absolutely brilliant , you all might be asking what is my interest in this aircraft ?

I have been trying to restore a B17F top turret  which i found in a scrap yard in Warrington many years ago the chances of identifying the actual aircraft as far as i was concerned was nil .How ever after talking with Gerad from the B17F LUCKY THIRTEEN crew , he informed me that the sperry A1 turret was last fitted to a B17F at a certain number .Unfortunately i just do not have that number to hand but that meant all the B17s after that number had no relevance  to my research so looking back some production batches stayed in the states and some went to the Pacific theater  of Operations.

After crossing off all the aircraft that went missing in action only two B17Fs went to Burtonwood for major repairs , as we know one was SALVAGE QUEEN and the other was PANAMA HATTIE  42-29933 flying with the 379th , she did eighteen missions , apparently theres a BBC recording of the top turret gunner and the pilot being interviewed !

I have studied photos of both aircraft and they both appear to have identical turrets  , which is a shame because i still can not pin the actual aircraft down that it came of so i have decided to honour both crews and squadrons  . .

 

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By: 1batfastard - 10th July 2023 at 21:22

Hi All,

 ballturret:- I don’t know if these sites are any help as I could only find out one definate name (Lt. Bill Harry – Image 4 of 21) also Quentin BlandKen Dekker both had a collection of images so were they crew members or curators of B-17 images ?  I am sure if you contact any of them they will at least be able to put you on the right path :- )

https://384thbombgroup.com/_content/_pages/One384thAircraft.php?AircraftKey=42-30005

https://photos.384thbombgroup.com/index.php?/category/F42-30005 

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https://b17flyingfortress.de/en/b17/42-30005-salvage-queen/

https://b17flyingfortress.de/en/b17/42-30005-salvage-queen/42-30005-photo/ 

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https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/b-17/b-17-42-30005-salvage-queen-384-bg-27-11-43-2/   

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https://m.facebook.com/groups/1400966466896699?view=announcements 

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http://www.forgottenprops.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/b-17_flying_fortress/boeing_b-17f_flying_fortress.html 

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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Eg29BgAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=B17F+42-30005&source=bl&ots=3R3qnkwdSA&sig=ACfU3U3cP71_Ple-n7E3BDiFvckYPyjZMw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0nMW9-YSAAxVDiVwKHYnkC844ChDoAXoECBwQAw#v=onepage&q=B17F%2042-30005&f=false 

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https://384thbombgroup.com/_content/_pages/websites.php

 

Edit:- 21:35 10/7/23.

Just found this info looks like this is what you want ? https://384thbombgroup.com/_content/_pages/PersonalWarRecord-R1_0.php?xID7uGt4=4636

Andrew Carr Conway flew combat missions with the 10 crewmates listed below.
Those appearing in bold text are members of his original crew. (Courtesy webs site)

Rank      –                   Name                   –  Position       –   Missions Flown Together

S-S/S     –  Baker, Howard Temple        –   R               –  2

2Lt         –  Belk, Claudius Earle            –   N               –  2

Pvt-S/S  –  Hemmick, Ralph Eugene     –   BT            –  2

2Lt-1Lt  –   Henderson, Lykes Shelton  –   P              –   2

S-S/S     –   Lally, Joseph Aloyious        –  WG-T G    –   2

S/S        –   McKnight, Harry Alvin              –  WG           –  1

S/S           –   Price, John Maxon             –     TG           –  1

S/S – T/S  –  Schultz, Ivon J                     –  TT            –   2

F/O-2Lt    –  Shinsky, Paul Francis         –   CP           –   2

S/S           –  Smith, George H (IO)           –  WG           –  2

Also this below.

DATE384th BG Mission #8th AF Mission #384th PRIMARY TARGET

1943‑06‑22165Target: General Motors Truck Factory
Type: Industry
Location: Antwerp, Belgium

First 384th Combat Mission: Col Budd J. Peaslee led the 384th Bombardment Group (H) on this mission, a “Secondary Effort” for the day, consisting of the 384th followed by the 381st BG. The 384th put up 20 aircraft for this mission; two B-17s failed to return, 10 crewmembers were KIA, 1 was MIA, 9 became POW, and 4 were wounded.

SORTIE DATA:

COMBAT CREDITSTATUSTARGET ATTACKED (MODE)

YesCompleted Mission
Comments: Ground Spare Aircraft and Crew. Replaced Witt. Landed first with wounded aboard.Primary (Visual)

SORTIE AIRCRAFT DATA:

TYPESERIAL NUMBERSQUADRONSQ CODENAMEGROUND CREW CHIEF

B-17F42‑30005 ⇗546thBK*ASALVAGE QUEENSchuyler, Charles R

SORTIE CREW DATA:

POSITIONCREWMEMBERUNITSTATUS

PilotHenderson, Lykes Shelton⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Co-pilotShinsky, Paul Francis, Sr⇗546Completed, Uninjured

NavigatorBelk, Claudius Earle⇗546Completed, Uninjured

BombardierConway, Andrew Carr, Sr⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Radio OperatorBaker, Howard Temple⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Engineer/Top TurretSchultz, Ivon J⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Ball TurretHemmick, Ralph Eugene, Jr⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Tail GunnerPrice, John Maxon⇗546Seriously Wounded

Waist (Flexible) GunnerSmith, George H (IO)⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Waist (Flexible) GunnerLally, Joseph Aloyious⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Geoff.

 

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