September 9, 2001 at 8:37 am
I have heard rumours BA planning to buy the A380? Are these true? And even if they buy…do they really need them?
regards
Kabir
By: rdc1000 - 4th December 2001 at 21:28
RE: BA & A380?
British Airways’ order for the Airbus fleet is (I believe and open to comment) the single largest order ever for Airbus aircraft (in one go) and BA’s largest single order, so I think to state that their order was a goodwill gesture may be a little understated.
British Airways’ policy of reducing capacity in their fleet was to focus on premium passengers due to slot constraints and a slow decision on T5 at LHR. They wanted to do away with a lot of feeder traffic which is relatively low yield. Now that T5 has been given the go ahead we may see BA show interest in the A380, though it isn’t worth them looking at it for some time yet. You’ll notice that many of those airlines (with the exclusion of Virgin who want it more as a luxury aircraft I think) that have ordered the A380 are airlines that feed hubs and do accept high levels of low yield feeder traffic, so it’s worth them ordering the aircraft (this include Emirates and SIA, and Qatar’s decision is based upon them wanting to create a hub like that of fellow gulf carrier Emirates.)
Richard
By: GZYL - 10th September 2001 at 21:11
RE: BA & A380?
On the noise front, the A-380 has to produce higher noise levels and a larger noise footprint than the 777. However the fewer A-380’s would disturb people living near airports less frequently that twice as many 777’s.
That said, the improved engine technology will mean that both types produce less noise and emmissions than aircraft of previous generations.
By: keltic - 10th September 2001 at 17:18
RE: BA & A380?
Well, BA (Boeing Always) is only intested in Boieng. Political presures from the “american friend” are too intense. The small fleet of Airbus is supposed to balance this point. BA has a lot of lines in which the A380 a perfect choice like for Virgin whose markets are esentially the same. On the other way, Lufthansa has plans to purchase 15. I am sure Iberia will follow soon.
By: monster500 - 10th September 2001 at 11:42
RE: BA & A380?
well from what i hear changi airport has to build a new terminal with specified fingerdocks for the a380 i guess thats an environmental issue there in itself without comparing the 777 or the 380.Alot of airports who have the A380 servicing them will need to modify,upgrade or build new facilities to accomadate this aircraft.I know that dubai were i work from has to build new terminal space for the a 380 so thats a factor at dubai airport.Personally i dont know if it will take off and be as popular as some people think but then again only time will tell.I wouldnt change from flying the 777 to the a380.I know cathay is mulling over it but they are not in favour of it neither is Jal which has so many 747s its amazing.For my mind the success of the A380 relies on alot of the asian market and with only 2 customers from this part of the world so far i dont know how good sales will be.One thing is for sure Ansett wont be buying it thats for sure they will be lucky to last the week out.
By: Bhoy - 10th September 2001 at 03:27
RE: BA & A380?
Interesting question. My guess would be 2 777’s.
After all, the A380 will be powered by, certainly to start with, the RR Trent. The Trent was also an Option for 777’s, so from that aspect, I suspect the Noise/Exhausts will be similar from 4 on the A380 to 2 777’s with 2 each, even allowing for different thrust ratings/versions.
However, surely 1, albeit larger, aircraft will cause less enviromental polution that 2? Which is my basing for my original guess.
If anyone has any better info, I’d be interested to know the scientific facts.
By: GZYL - 9th September 2001 at 20:17
RE: BA & A380?
That’s my opinion too. The use of fewer large aircraft will cure the slot problem… for the time being. This will mean the airport authorities only have to worry about places to put passengers.
Could anyone answer this question?
In the age of concern for the environment, which causes most damage, two 777’s or one A380?
By: greekdude1 - 9th September 2001 at 19:19
RE: BA & A380?
As soon as they enter service and the bigboys(QANTAS, Singapore, Virgin, Air France, Emirates start operating them at near full load factors on the really crowded routes, everybody else will follow suit. Besides, it’s the only solution to the slot problem that plagues most airports like Heathrow, LAX, Narita, O’Hare, etc. Instead of operating 2 777’s, why not operate one A380?
By: KabirT - 9th September 2001 at 17:05
RE: BA & A380?
I just wanted to point out if airlines keep saying this that they are in no need of the A380….the A380 is going to run into some turbulence. They just cannot go on with 60 orders in there hands.
Kabir
By: dan330 - 9th September 2001 at 14:32
RE: BA & A380?
I’d have to agree that this is very unlikely. They seem to be replacing their fleet with smaller aircraft. They don’t have enough customers, most people have seen sense and realised just how bad an airline they are.
PS Virgin have already ordered the A380 🙂 🙂
By: monster500 - 9th September 2001 at 12:18
RE: BA & A380?
thats what i have been hearing through the vine to
By: Saab 2000 - 9th September 2001 at 09:17
RE: BA & A380?
British Airways has said that it is not interested in the A380.
Studies for the airline concluded that the aircraft does not make economic sense for the BA fleet.There are only few routes that suit large aircraft on BA routes,otherwise 767/777’s are used.I am not sure if BA have changed their mind but i agree that the A380 would be to large to operate for them.I think that ANA has said the same thing.
Regards Saab 2000