July 11, 2002 at 1:29 pm
A BA a/c (Logonair) on route to Benbecula was ordered off course by a Navel Warship captain due to the ship firing missiles in the Ba a/c’s general direction!
The BA plane was swiftly ordered back on course by ATC and the Navel Captain has been reprted to the Air safety people.
This was on todays news so must have happened in the past couple of days….I only caught a bit of it.
Regards
Ben
By: greekdude1 - 15th July 2002 at 02:40
RE: BA plane at missile strike
Interesting that you bring that up, Mongu, as that is another debate in itself. I was born in the U.S., both my parents were born in Greece. Unlike your fiance, I have been to the old country 6 times, soon to be 7. We still retain all the customs and traditions, even living in the U.S. To that extent, I am very Greek, and the fact that I associate with my cousins and Greek friends rather often helps keep the Greek alive. I was, however, born in the U.S., live in the U.S., and will continue to live in the U.S. I pay taxes to the U.S., and they pay my salary. I consider myself, “Greek-American,” which I suppose is the politically correct thing to do. I support both nations when they play internationally, however Greece and the Greek way of thinking piss me off(especially after Sept. 11) quite a bit, especially when it comes to politics. But I’d rather not even go there. Hope that answers your question.
GD1
P.S. I also have an Australian fiance Mongu, we have something in common. However, mine is Greek-Australian, rather than Italian.
By: mongu - 14th July 2002 at 20:36
RE: BA plane at missile strike
Go figure? VERY American!
I don’t think there is much of a nationality issue in this forum. The general discussion forum though…..
Out of interest, how do you regard yoursef – Greek or American, or both?
My fiance is an Italian-Australian, but she is adamant she is really Italian! (even though she has never been to the old country!)
By: greekdude1 - 14th July 2002 at 08:33
RE: BA plane at missile strike
It’s all good Bhoy, I really don’t get offended that easily. I was actually very amused by your use of it. I just had to bring it up since it seems like I’m the only bloody yank in here, and represent in the process. And one that claims another nationality as a handle, no less. Go figure?
GD1
By: Bhoy - 12th July 2002 at 08:59
RE: BA plane at missile strike
wyswig, must be a typo. On the news they said ‘on an emergency radio frequency’.
and greekdude, I have excellent relationships with all the Americans I know… but it’s great to be able to wind them up… 😉 It’s all tongue in cheek.
but just for you, I’ll rephrase that.
what the hell is NATO doing, firing misiles in the Little Minch? better?
By: greekdude1 - 12th July 2002 at 04:21
RE: BA plane at missile strike
Those bloody YANKS, eh Bhoy?
GD1
By: wysiwyg - 12th July 2002 at 01:35
RE: BA plane at missile strike
What wonderful duff reporting!
quote – ‘The aircraft was travelling from the Hebridean island of Lewis to Benbecula in the Western Isles when a warning came on an emergency panel’
I wonder how many J31’s have incoming missile warning panels!
By: Bhoy - 11th July 2002 at 19:00
RE: BA plane at missile strike
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 11-07-02 AT 07:03Â PM (GMT)]it wasn’t a BA a/c, as mentioned, it was a Highland Airways a/c, a Jetstream J31.
The flight was from Stornoway, on Lewis, to Benbecula (between North and South Uist), all in the Outer Hebridies.
The ship was a US Navy vessel, though what exactly the yanks are doing threatening to shoot down planes over the Minch, I don’t know. I doubt the vessel in question is the USS Vincennes.
Latest from BBC News online
The commander of an American NATO warship has been reported to aviation authorities after he ordered a scheduled passenger flight off its normal route.
It has been reported that the commander told the aircraft that it was entering a military area before issuing the order.
The Jetstream aircraft was travelling from the Hebridean island of Stornoway to Benbecula in the Western Isles on Tuesday when a warning came on an emergency panel.
The pilot of the Highland Airways flight turned off course before air traffic controllers intervened to bring it back onto its normal route.
The airline and air traffic controllers have formally complained to the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).
A CAA spokesman said: “We have had a report from an airline that a flight from Stornoway to Benbecula was addressed over the radio by a ship, presumably a military ship, that it should leave the area.
“There is no indication that there was any firing under way. The aircraft did leave the area.”
The CAA spokesman said the authority had no record of there being a restricted area or closed airspace in that area at the time.
He added: “The airline’s view is that it was entitled to be where it was.
‘Restricted zone’
“We have received the report from the airline, and we are looking at it.”
A spokesman for Highland Airways said: “On Tuesday a Highland Airways flight traveling from Stornoway to Benbecula at 0905 BST received a call from a US Navy Warship.
“The aircraft was warned that that it was entering a restricted zone and should alter its course immediately.
“The aircraft complied with the request but after further consultation with air traffic control discovered that it was not in any danger and carried on to Benbecula.”
The spokesman said he did not know the name of the warship, or whether the message from the ship was intended to be taken as an order.
It is thought the US warship, which was taking part in a NATO exercise, may have been firing missiles in the area.
This is the second incident in the past few days involving the same NATO operation off the west coast of Scotland.
On Tuesday a British frigate fired a shell into a loch eight miles off target and just one mile from the village of Durness.
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By: Saab 2000 - 11th July 2002 at 15:27
RE: BA plane at missile strike
What type of aircraft was it?BN Islander?
By: EGNM - 11th July 2002 at 14:13
RE: BA plane at missile strike
The commander of a NATO warship has been reported to aviation authorities after he ordered a scheduled passenger flight off its normal route.
It has been reported that the commander told the aircraft that it was entering a military area before issuing the order.
The aircraft was travelling from the Hebridean island of Lewis to Benbecula in the Western Isles when a warning came on an emergency panel.
The pilot of the Highland Airways flight turned off course before air traffic controllers intervened to bring it back onto its normal route.
The airline and air traffic controllers have formally complained to the Civil Aviation Authority.
It is thought the warship, a foreign vessel, may have been firing Sea Dart missiles in the area.
This is the second incident in the past few days involving the same NATO operation off the west coast of Scotland.
On Tuesday a British frigate fired a shell into a loch eight miles off target and just one mile from the village of Durness.
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Hmm scary!!!