BA staff arrested over jet damage

they where probly trying to pull a fast one

You are right, there are some ground staff out there who dont give one! I have seen a/c come in with damage which must of been from the departing airport!

All training that is provided from handling agents is that any damage should be repoerted straight away and no equipment moved.

I just can not belive that some ground staff would leave it and risk the flight of god knows how many passengers!

Of course the pilot’s inspection SHOULD find such damage, and usually would, but any other airline personnel who know they have accidently caused damage to an aircraft and fails to report it would be deemed to be ‘criminally negligent’. This is not a term I have invented, but is unfortunately perhaps not explained to some ground staff. As a passenger I am sometimes a little alarmed at the rather casual regard some ground staff seem to have towards aircraft. I apologise to those ground staff who work properly and probably know what I mean, because I am not talking about them.

I’m led to believe that it is not standard procedure for criminal charges to be brought when the damage is (following standard procedure) reported by those who cause it, but in this case no report was made – and Oneleft is right that the lack of a report is what triggered the charges.

The damage may not have been intentional, but the failure to report it must have been. Someone was thick enough to think he could get away with bashing a hole in an A321 if he didn’t own up.

there is a rumor that is going about why they have been arrested ,charged and bailed, its not for what you have said ,I will wait and seen and then comment if the rumor is true

Quite right, I have repaired too much damage caused by these careless fools! 😡

I do hope your not putting all ramp agents under that thought!

Careless indeed, and if they didn’t tell anyone they deserve everything they get!

The pilot not flying usually does the walk-around (whether it be the C or FO), for the airlines where I have contacts within… It maybe different elsewhere.

The primary reason aircraw do walkrounds is so say “look at me, I’m a pilot”!!!
Next time you see an aircrew walkround notice:
1. The speed they do it (A brisk trot)
2. the distance they are away from the aircraft (Never closer than ten feet)

Far from it… I’m sure Deano can give you the full once over about what they do.

A walk around is quite intensive, and requires a trained eye to do it efficiently. Take a look at these two videos,
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p8I_qqOY2Z4&feature=channel_page
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8GR3iSA9Y&feature=channel_page

This one happened just before Christmas

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/12/15/320149/dc-9-depressurised-after-ramp-crew-covered-up-tug-strike.html

I have found numerous incidences of un reported damage to aircraft. One occasion the perpetrator actually went and got some paint that nearly matched the aircraft’s and painted over the damage!
My spies at LHR tell me that the police are involved because the people drove off and did not report it.
The traditional thing that happens if you damage an aircraft and you report it straight away is that you don’t loose your job. You will get a b*******g but what do you expect? But the important thing was, you reported a potential safety threat.
These days however………………

A bit of hype surely…?

Remember the Quantas 747 with the exploding O2 bottle? The majority of that damage was caused by the depressurization not by the bottle. Imagine a whole that size opening up on a A321 right by the cargo door.

Don’t FO’s do a walk round and visual inspection anymore ?

The primary reason aircraw do walkrounds is so say “look at me, I’m a pilot”!!!
Next time you see an aircrew walkround notice:
1. The speed they do it (A brisk trot)
2. the distance they are away from the aircraft (Never closer than ten feet)
😀

Rgds Cking

I’m led to believe that it is not standard procedure for criminal charges to be brought when the damage is (following standard procedure) reported by those who cause it, but in this case no report was made – and Oneleft is right that the lack of a report is what triggered the charges.

The damage may not have been intentional, but the failure to report it must have been. Someone was thick enough to think he could get away with bashing a hole in an A321 if he didn’t own up.

Im lead to belive that it is standard procedure when an aircraft is damaged on the ground for those person involved to be charged, the only difference in this case is that those involved have been bailed.
From others who have work airside this is the only thing that seems to be out of the norm

A bit of hype surely…? Don’t FO’s do a walk round and visual inspection anymore ?

Much ado about nothin’ if you ask me..i’m sure it wasn’t intentional

“Had it got into the air with this damage it is difficult to know what could have happened – the worst case could have been a catastrophic decompression of the plane causing it to crash.

A bit of hype surely…? Don’t FO’s do a walk round and visual inspection anymore ?

I think the crime is the not reporting rather than the doing.

1L.

Strange how they have been arrested…for what, criminal damage?

Should indeed be for criminal damage. If I am not mistaken any unreported damage to a commercial airliner is automatically criminal damage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7828771.stm

Strange how they have been arrested…for what, criminal damage?

I cant really understand this, because surely if someone caused damage to an aircraft, they would report it, wouldnt they?

Seems to be an alleged hit & run between a luggage truck and a BA A321 according to the Daily Mail

Well it must have been quite serious for the Daily Mail to report it…

Mr Ando said a police source had described the damage as a gash to the fuselage.

How did the DM describe a ‘gash’…a huge gaping hole, perhaps…:rolleyes::D:diablo::p