BA " treating male passengers like perverts ".

I wonder if he would have a case under sexual discrimination?

I am sure it would be a precedent. He’d need a thick wallet for the lawyers, though!

I wonder if he would have a case under sexual discrimination?

Tony

“Stuff like this nonsense needs to be stamped out…”

This was better than your second idea……….

But to sue the airline isn’t a clever idea, especially a large global company like BA

Maybe not, but the negative publicity isn’t exactly doing BA any good is it…..

Stuff like this nonsense needs to be stamped out…… It will become like South Africa of old with the “whites only” seating and swimming pools etc…

What next? “males only areas” carriages on trains, planes, park benches, swimming pools?????? etc……It is just so wrong and indicitive of the UK’s “everyone is guilty until proved innocent” scaremongering that goes on. Far better to make it NO CHILD can travel unaccompanied… BUT WAIT, that will cause the loss of a sale…

Sadly for us, it is less the entire planet, rather our own wretched country.:mad:

I could not agree with you more. But to elaborate any further on my own views of the ‘Nanny State” would be outside the remit of this thread and could incur the wrath of the moderator 😉 These policies are sending this country to hell in a hand basket

A man is taking British Airways to court after being asked to change his seat so that he was not sitting next to a child who was not his own.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Is this common practice on other airlines ?

Is it justified ?

He has no ground to win the case it isn’t airline policy as far as i am aware, it is one of the regulatory bodies that sets this rule if i am not mistaken, yes i see his side of the argument, a women can be just as likely to have the same intentions.

But to sue the airline isn’t a clever idea, especially a large global company like BA

We’re creating a state where all adults are presumed to be up to no good as fae as children are concerned.
Guidelines for my voluntary church childrens’ work require me,a female of grandparent age,never to be alone with a child,which is fair enough.
I’m also supposed to rebuff them if,God forbid,they freely offer me a cuddle ( try explaining that to a four year old ),prevent them from climbing up on my lap,and refrain from all physical contact if they hurt themselves and need comforting.
If the child was already seated when the man was asked to move,then he or she must have got the impression that sitting next to an unknown man was somehow asking for trouble.
Why wasn’t he just asked to change places with his wife ? At six months gone she wouldn’t have been at the horrible beached whale size yet.
That’s not to say that as a female she’d be absolutely above suspicion,of course. ( Must be p.c. ! )
What a world we’re creating.When I was a kid a lonely old man could sit watching children playing in a park and offer them sweets in all innocence.
Imagine that happening now.

And I fear that due to these ridiculously stringent guidelines fewer volunteers are coming forward to help, understandably. I commend you for continuing, Bumblebee. In a similar situation I am not sure that I would.:(

We’re creating a state where all adults are presumed to be up to no good as far as children are concerned.
Guidelines for my voluntary church childrens’ work require me,a female of grandparent age,never to be alone with a child,which is fair enough.
I’m also supposed to rebuff them if,God forbid,they freely offer me a cuddle ( try explaining that to a four year old ),prevent them from climbing up on my lap,and refrain from all physical contact if they hurt themselves and need comforting.
If the child was already seated when the man was asked to move,then he or she must have got the impression that sitting next to an unknown man was somehow asking for trouble.
Why wasn’t he just asked to change places with his wife ? At six months gone she wouldn’t have been at the horrible beached whale size yet.
That’s not to say that as a female she’d be absolutely above suspicion,of course. ( Must be p.c. ! )
What a world we’re creating.When I was a kid a lonely old man could sit watching children playing in a park and offer them sweets in all innocence.
Imagine that happening now.

What is this planet coming to? 😡

Sadly for us, it is less the entire planet, rather our own wretched country.:mad:

I wish I was.
Several schools have now banned running, skipping and shouting in the playground.
Apparently, parents were sueing the schools when their children fell over and grazed their knees.
I also read of one that banned team games because that could lead to some kids being left out.

What is this planet coming to? 😡

I wish I was.
Several schools have now banned running, skipping and shouting in the playground.
Apparently, parents were sueing the schools when their children fell over and grazed their knees.

Utterly amazing, and those parents need slapping. Surely part of schooling is to prepare kids for life? Isn’t falling over when running around and occasionally grazing a knee/elbow a part of life? I don’t see that as looking after the kids, I see it as taking a perfectly normal childhood away from them. Very sad indeed. 😡

Paul

The classic story last week was of the school which closed because the playground was not safe so the children had the day off throwing snowballs and sledging in the local park just down the road. Pathetic. I wonder if parents and staff would be so submissive to school closure if the system in some US states was adopted where days lost to closure are added on at the end of term thereby reducing the length of the holiday.

I wish I was.
Several schools have now banned running, skipping and shouting in the playground.
Apparently, parents were sueing the schools when their children fell over and grazed their knees.
I also read of one that banned team games because that could lead to some kids being left out.

I mean, they’re banning children from playing in the school play ground because they might fall over, thats how insane it’s getting.

Please tell me you’re joking!

And people wonder why I think this country is screwed. :rolleyes:

Paul

The foreigners perception is that it is inhabited by drunks, paedophiles and men in hi-viz jackets.

They’re not far off the truth! (The bit about the drunks and hi-viz vests)
I mean, they’re banning children from playing in the school play ground because they might fall over, thats how insane it’s getting.

What if the flight had been completely full with males?
Who would they kick off the flight.
The UK is a laughing stock throughout the world.
The foreigners perception is that it is inhabited by drunks, paedophiles and men in hi-viz jackets.

There was another thread a while ago about another airline and similar polices (that I couldn’t find) – was it Qantas and/or Air NZ? I guess statistically more paedophiles are males so it may be better sitting them next to females (the children, that is), but this was gone about the wrong way in this instance.

Claude Knights, of the children’s charity Kidscape said: ‘The airline should have procedures in place to avoid this sort of situation.
‘If the airline is that concerned they should sit unaccompanied children with cabin crew who have no doubt been thoroughly vetted.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243625/Businessman-Mirko-Fischer-sues-British-Airwars-treating-men-like-perverts.html#ixzz0coahj67N

That was my first thought…if the Airlines are serious about this farcical policy then the onus is on them to place the child in an acceptable seat at check in – not embarrass a (probably) completely trustworthy bloke in front of hundreds of people.I must admit that I am extremely wary of unaccompanied contact with any minors these days…potty !!

If accurate, surely this is a stupid over reaction, particularly as he was sitting next to his pregnant wife….. so he will have a kid of his own to look after…. if he doesn’t complain, someone may deduce incorrectly that he may be a paedophile and suddenly Social Services may step in to remove THEIR child from their care, all because of this.
I frequently travel with my wife who prefers the window seat or with extra leg room and I’d therefore be in the same situation. It’s not me who should move if I am travelling with my wife, a seat should be found elsewhere for the “lone” child.
Are cabin crew vetted for suitability and pass the appropriate checks?
A lack of common sense from this member of the cabin crew.
If both he and his wife had spoken up that they were travelling together the appropriate action would have been to move the child, not immediately take offence.
I hope he wins

i know of no such policy on any other airline

Probably true of a policy as in this report Steve. I have worked for three other UK airlines over the years and two of them had policies similar to the actual BA one. The other airline was so long ago that these issues probably weren’t given much thought at the time.

1L.