BAe-ATPs

ah thanks, some interesting stuff there, looks like they arent going as soon as i thought then!!

Didnt know that was still flying!!

http://www.jethros.i12.com/FLEETS/Listings/BRITISH_AIRWAYS_ATP.htm

Didnt know that was still flying!!

Here’s my only shot of a British Airways ATP at Glasgow in June…

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Nice shot, it’s G-MAUD by the way. 😀

This Landor liveried one was in at GLA again yesterday.

Here’s my only shot of a British Airways ATP at Glasgow in June…

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I saw the WestAir ATP parked up on the cargo apron at GLA on my way past today…first time I’ve seen the scheme in the flesh…interestin if you notice that they have simply painted over the white of the BA livery with the grey and applied decals onto the fuselage. Still using the BA blue belly and engines…hehe

I dont think that westair took any BA models. Most were ex Air Winsconsen (United Feeder (Emerald took the other 3 of these)), and then they added British World examples, i really dont think that the liv is actually purposly designed that way!

ATPs… Dreadful things… Good riddance to them all. When I worked at British Midland, it was often said that ATP stood for “Alternative Transport Provided” or “Another Technical Problem”… They were also known as Skodas – remember this is back in the days when Skoda didn’t make very good cars!

Andy

We also said ATP represented their value too. (80p).

That said, as my first commercial type the ATP seemed like a rocket ship compared to a Seneca! Good weight, good handler in a cross-wind, very poor s/e performance – just enough power to get you to the crash site! Poor flight deck ergonomics but relatively roomy inside. Not sad to move on from it though!

West Air Sweden operate the Fedex Paris CDG “hot standby” aircraft now from CDG, operating wherever fedex require them, whether it be due tech aircraft, excess freight or even to carry a small spare part for say an A310 or MD11 tech in europe. This is possably the most likely explanation, however i know there has been a lot of Fedex contract shuffles going on recently, Emerald lost the 2 standbys for CDG-VIE, CDG-PRG and also gained MXP-PSA.

I think I’m one of the few that’s actually enjoyed being on an ATP. Saw this Westair one at GLA last week. I gather it’s to become a fairly common site from now on replacing the BAC Express Fokker 27?

Only the Brits could redesign the Avro 748 (first flight June 1960) and call it an ‘Advanced’ turboprop……more like the legendary Stiff Records slogan, ‘reversing into tomorrow’.
But, hey, they are doing it again, using taxpayer’s money, to redesign the Comet (first flight July 1949), as the Nimrod Mk. 4….it’s enough to make you weep.

2. Are there many ATP operators left as I would hate to see them go completely!!

Emerald (fools! 😮 ) are acquiring a bunch, and WestAir Sweden have quite a few. Many of them (two Gems and most of the WestAirs) are being converted to freighters. Best thing for them, freighters – mind you, they’re so bad I’m surprised the freight doesn’t complain about having to go on an ATP! :p

Andy

Nah, the Shed was much more fun – flew lower down, the windows were bigger, so better views – and they didn’t go tech so often. And in terms of “modern” turboprops, IMHO the Saab 2000, and the Dornier 328 in particular, are somewhat better than the ATP.

Flew on G-BMYK 41 times, G-BMYM 33 times and G-BMYL 17 times. Also flew on G-MAUD twice, and G-ERIN, G-LOGB, G-MANL and G-OBWL once each. So, didn’t quite make 100 flights on ATPs. I have no desire to do the extra three ATP flights and make it 100, thank you!

Andy

Noo i love the ATP! Thats why Mark and me went to IOM in Feb just to fly on a BA ATP. Love em by now!

And yet my first ATP experience was LPL-IOM in (I think) the late 80’s. My previous flights had been with a Shed; the ATP was a comparative delight.

LOL @ Skymonster! How many times have I expressed my ATP views on this forum!

ATPs… Dreadful things… Good riddance to them all. When I worked at British Midland, it was often said that ATP stood for “Alternative Transport Provided” or “Another Technical Problem”… They were also known as Skodas – remember this is back in the days when Skoda didn’t make very good cars!

Andy

Ooo course Suckling!! How could we forget them!

Don’t forget the Air Engiadina Do328s that used to serve Ringway before they went bust.

Oh, and the Suckling Dorniers, too. 🙂

And there use to be Air Wales Dornier 228’s @ MAN before they stopped the service
Nice ATP once again MAN!

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